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Bournemouth Dublin
I'm also holding back on booking my Bournemouth-Dublin flight in November but may have to consider Southampton-Dublin instead. Not sure why this route would be seasonal as there is a huge Irish population and very strong VFR links between the two places. Perhaps not sustainable for the likes of 189 seats but certainly a 70 seater.
Someone please advise what is happening.
Someone please advise what is happening.
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Anyone have information about the Bournemouth/Dublin route?? Is it going to be seasonal or is it being cut altogether? Would be a shame if its a total cut. Also why does this route operate so late in the day? Surely an earlier morning flight would be better and then they could pick up on any potential connection traffic to the long-haul USA routes.
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"Perhaps it doesn't operate earlier because the fleet is fully utilised on other routes earlier in the day?"
Yes that is true, the fleet could be fully utilised earlier in the day, I just thought it might be worth trying the flight with a new timing to maybe capture some connecting traffic before cancelling the flight altogether (if indeed that is what has happened and its not just a seasonal cut). Although from what I understand, it seems quite a popular route and whilst I know this doesn't mean its making a lot of money, it is still quite a new route, with Aer Lingus Regional/Aer Arann operating it anyway.
Yes that is true, the fleet could be fully utilised earlier in the day, I just thought it might be worth trying the flight with a new timing to maybe capture some connecting traffic before cancelling the flight altogether (if indeed that is what has happened and its not just a seasonal cut). Although from what I understand, it seems quite a popular route and whilst I know this doesn't mean its making a lot of money, it is still quite a new route, with Aer Lingus Regional/Aer Arann operating it anyway.
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It seems strange then that all the other UK airports are on sale for the winter now including Blackpool which was summer only originally and Bournemouth is missing completely for the winter
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Yes it does seem strange you're right. I've just gone onto the Aer Lingus website to try and book a hypothetical trip in November and it still says the route is only operating from May-27th October 2012...so I'm assuming, if it remains, its just going to be summer season only.
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Is this classed as an expansion or to replace the ATR-42s, along with the Air Contractors ATR72-200 (EI-SLN, & EI-SLL) along with EI-REH & EI-REI?
Obviously by replacing the above is technically an expansion in the terms of capacity however I mean total aircraft expansion.
Obviously by replacing the above is technically an expansion in the terms of capacity however I mean total aircraft expansion.
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Oops meant 72 :o . Heard something on RT about smoke from a shutdown engine, then I had to change freq.
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Weight?
Currently sat in MAN after this mornings flight to ORK was cancelled due to EI-SLL going tech in ORK.
Most passengers have been transferred onto WAT which has raised a concern for me. Can you please tell me what I should do.
The MAN-WAT flight is operated by a ATR 42-300 and due to the cancelled ORK flight all 48 seats are now taken. There is a golfing party onboard of about 30 PAX and I am concerned about the weight of the aircraft. I understand the max load is in the region of 4,500kg.
51 people (inc PAX and Crew) about 75% of which are fairly large golfers/men lets say average 85kg (i would guess this may even be too low) for all onboard = 4,335kg
The 30 golfers each had a checked bag (say 10kg) and a outsize golf club bag (say 20kg) = 900kg (not sure how they are going to fit it all onto the A/C!)
Other PAX checked baggage I am not sure about and as for hand baggage, there seems to be a lot of this also - which wasn't weighed at check in.
As you can see from these quick calculations it would appear that we have some weight issues or am I incorrect?
If we make it off the ground, we are flying into WAT which is a short runway - potential stopping distance issues?
I assume that weights are all calculated electronically but when I looked at the check in line it just looked wrong. As a PAX, I have flown probably around 500 sectors on ATR A/C and have never seen anything like this before.
So should I make the flight crew aware of my opinion? I am a regular flyer and don't want to cry wolf but will do if there is a genuine reason. What is your thoughts?
Most passengers have been transferred onto WAT which has raised a concern for me. Can you please tell me what I should do.
The MAN-WAT flight is operated by a ATR 42-300 and due to the cancelled ORK flight all 48 seats are now taken. There is a golfing party onboard of about 30 PAX and I am concerned about the weight of the aircraft. I understand the max load is in the region of 4,500kg.
51 people (inc PAX and Crew) about 75% of which are fairly large golfers/men lets say average 85kg (i would guess this may even be too low) for all onboard = 4,335kg
The 30 golfers each had a checked bag (say 10kg) and a outsize golf club bag (say 20kg) = 900kg (not sure how they are going to fit it all onto the A/C!)
Other PAX checked baggage I am not sure about and as for hand baggage, there seems to be a lot of this also - which wasn't weighed at check in.
As you can see from these quick calculations it would appear that we have some weight issues or am I incorrect?
If we make it off the ground, we are flying into WAT which is a short runway - potential stopping distance issues?
I assume that weights are all calculated electronically but when I looked at the check in line it just looked wrong. As a PAX, I have flown probably around 500 sectors on ATR A/C and have never seen anything like this before.
So should I make the flight crew aware of my opinion? I am a regular flyer and don't want to cry wolf but will do if there is a genuine reason. What is your thoughts?
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If weights an issue those golf bags will be off loaded .
Unless its snowing in waterford landing won't be an issue either.
However those 42's have been around since the wright brothers .... That would concern me ...... Especially if it's BYO !
Unless its snowing in waterford landing won't be an issue either.
However those 42's have been around since the wright brothers .... That would concern me ...... Especially if it's BYO !
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Do you not think that there are checks put in place to avoid such issues?
Well done for picking it up, as most pax wouldn't have a clue on weight and balance. But the Airlines operations, Pilots and dispatchers all have to account for the safe dispatch of aircraft within its weight limits.
The loadsheet produced will show the Captain its maximum take off weight, and maximum landing weight in WAT.
I can assure you, you have nothing to worry about.
However the golfers might - the cost of hiring clubs until they arrive!
Well done for picking it up, as most pax wouldn't have a clue on weight and balance. But the Airlines operations, Pilots and dispatchers all have to account for the safe dispatch of aircraft within its weight limits.
The loadsheet produced will show the Captain its maximum take off weight, and maximum landing weight in WAT.
I can assure you, you have nothing to worry about.
However the golfers might - the cost of hiring clubs until they arrive!
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Hi Guys, thanks for your messages back.
So what weight do they base an average passenger on with average hand luggage on the load sheet? I would suggest that today this would be significantly greater than the average. Obviously all checked bags, fuel etc will be of a known weight.
I was just surprised by the lack of concern the weight was given by the Menzies check in staff despite sticking so many 'heavy' tags on bags. They were getting a lot of stick from passengers, were under stress and wanted rid of the PAX as soon as possible. They didn't even ask to look at hand luggage. On flights that are nearly full it seems normal procedure to weigh all hand baggage as well.
I'm sure it'll be grand and I have, as always, every faith in the RE crew.
Yeah, valid point regarding condition of A/C, thankfully BYO seems to be operating from DUB today
Although tbh all of the 42's are as bad as each other even if some have been tarted up to be easier on the eye!
So what weight do they base an average passenger on with average hand luggage on the load sheet? I would suggest that today this would be significantly greater than the average. Obviously all checked bags, fuel etc will be of a known weight.
I was just surprised by the lack of concern the weight was given by the Menzies check in staff despite sticking so many 'heavy' tags on bags. They were getting a lot of stick from passengers, were under stress and wanted rid of the PAX as soon as possible. They didn't even ask to look at hand luggage. On flights that are nearly full it seems normal procedure to weigh all hand baggage as well.
I'm sure it'll be grand and I have, as always, every faith in the RE crew.
Yeah, valid point regarding condition of A/C, thankfully BYO seems to be operating from DUB today
Although tbh all of the 42's are as bad as each other even if some have been tarted up to be easier on the eye!