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Sat in the Olive Tree bar in Bournemouth Airport lounge, waiting for my flight to Manchester later. Both bar and lounge are totally deserted. The bar/WHSmith/Duty Free staff must get a tad bored during the three hr gap between flights!
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Bournemouth handled 75, 607 passengers in May down 1.5 % due as always to the loss of the 7 Ryanair routes and 11 flights a week
However the new Flybe routes which started on the 18 th May all show a good start except the Deauville route
Instead of showing the usual Ryanair loads which incidently all averaged about 90 % loads , here are the new Flybe loads except Toulon which has not been published yet
Biarritz 215 , 54 pax
Deauville 390 , 24 pax
Paris CDG 856 , 54 pax
Dublin 935 , 58 pax
Amsterdam 836 , 52 pax
Glasgow 3799 , 39 pax
Manchester 2670 , 56 pax
Jersey 1478 , 49 pax
The 3 services above took into account cancelled flights as well
A really good start i would say but as always the yield is probably not good yet and will take some time to build up , the fact they are continuing into the winter with a similar schedule is good news all around
However the new Flybe routes which started on the 18 th May all show a good start except the Deauville route
Instead of showing the usual Ryanair loads which incidently all averaged about 90 % loads , here are the new Flybe loads except Toulon which has not been published yet
Biarritz 215 , 54 pax
Deauville 390 , 24 pax
Paris CDG 856 , 54 pax
Dublin 935 , 58 pax
Amsterdam 836 , 52 pax
Glasgow 3799 , 39 pax
Manchester 2670 , 56 pax
Jersey 1478 , 49 pax
The 3 services above took into account cancelled flights as well
A really good start i would say but as always the yield is probably not good yet and will take some time to build up , the fact they are continuing into the winter with a similar schedule is good news all around
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As many as 24 on the Deauville flight average? I am genuinely surprised it's that high. Can't see that one lasting though, even Ryanair fly to Deauville from Stansted what's the score with that one?
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New Wizz flights announced today:
Budapest-Birmingham (2x weekly from 15SEP)
Warsaw-Birmingham (2x weekly from 14SEP)
Wrong thread, thanks for the heads up, Sharklet.
Budapest-Birmingham (2x weekly from 15SEP)
Warsaw-Birmingham (2x weekly from 14SEP)
Wrong thread, thanks for the heads up, Sharklet.
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Nearly fell off my chair...but yes Birmingham. Still think a Polish route would do well from BOH . Flew on the Katowice route twice and was packed on all four sectors. But...must have been low yields...
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Ryanair have added an extra 6 flights over Christmas / New year period to Malaga and Alicante in addition to there regular flights which is good news
Also a long way off but P&O cruises have added an extra 3 flights to Barbados from Nov 2016 / 17 in addition to the ones already announced
Still no news if Flybe will operate any ski flights over the winter season , there are definate gaps in the flying schedule at the moment to allow for this and Inghams Ski have added Bournemouth to there drop down list , something which hasnt been on there for over 4 years now so it could still be possible they may be using Flybe ?
Also a long way off but P&O cruises have added an extra 3 flights to Barbados from Nov 2016 / 17 in addition to the ones already announced
Still no news if Flybe will operate any ski flights over the winter season , there are definate gaps in the flying schedule at the moment to allow for this and Inghams Ski have added Bournemouth to there drop down list , something which hasnt been on there for over 4 years now so it could still be possible they may be using Flybe ?
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87,139 pax June 2015 up 12.3%
Flights up 44.7% in the month.
What is very interesting is the 'co-incidental' decreases from SOU on the same routes - GLA down 5%, MAN down 5%, DUB down 16%, Ams down 6% and Paris down 17%. No data for JER.
BOH saw healthy numbers on domestics:
GLA 3,927 (load factor? some flights were canceled)
JER 2,369
MAN 5,438
BOH also saw very healthy growth on some internationals:
MJV 7,534 up 22%
AGP 7,316 up 38%
TFS 3,580 up 29%
But some unhealthy falls especially to IBA, RHO, GRO,, ACE, FUE
Flybe international routes seemed to perform well:
DUB 1,826 (down 1% VLY Are Lingus service)
CDG 1,657
TLN no data available
BIQ 467
AMS 1,463
DVL 477 (pretty terrible, doubt it will come back next year)
Sorry but I have no time to work out load factors.
What is very interesting is the 'co-incidental' decreases from SOU on the same routes - GLA down 5%, MAN down 5%, DUB down 16%, Ams down 6% and Paris down 17%. No data for JER.
BOH saw healthy numbers on domestics:
GLA 3,927 (load factor? some flights were canceled)
JER 2,369
MAN 5,438
BOH also saw very healthy growth on some internationals:
MJV 7,534 up 22%
AGP 7,316 up 38%
TFS 3,580 up 29%
But some unhealthy falls especially to IBA, RHO, GRO,, ACE, FUE
Flybe international routes seemed to perform well:
DUB 1,826 (down 1% VLY Are Lingus service)
CDG 1,657
TLN no data available
BIQ 467
AMS 1,463
DVL 477 (pretty terrible, doubt it will come back next year)
Sorry but I have no time to work out load factors.
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But some unhealthy falls especially to IBA, RHO, GRO,, ACE, FUE
The figures for ACE for 2014 look wrong to me with the scheduled figure too low and the charter numbers too high.
I'm not sure if Ryanair reduced the number of flights to GRO for 2015 but that could be the reason for the fall on that route.
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To continue the good news that finally saw Bournemouth with an increase of over 12 % in passengers for June
Take into account the missing 7 Ryanair routes and 11 flights a week , Flybe have definatly made a mark on the figures , have noticed as well the fares are begining to creap up slowly to build up the yield , all takes time and only 9 weeks into opening the base
Paris CDG 1657 49 pax
Amsterdam 1463 43 pax
Biaritz 467 58 pax
Dublin 1826 54 pax
Deauville 477 15 pax ( mmmm…. )
Domestic flights taking into account several cancellations
Glasgow 3927 39 pax
Manchester 5438 52 pax
Jersey 2369 37 pax
Take into account the missing 7 Ryanair routes and 11 flights a week , Flybe have definatly made a mark on the figures , have noticed as well the fares are begining to creap up slowly to build up the yield , all takes time and only 9 weeks into opening the base
Paris CDG 1657 49 pax
Amsterdam 1463 43 pax
Biaritz 467 58 pax
Dublin 1826 54 pax
Deauville 477 15 pax ( mmmm…. )
Domestic flights taking into account several cancellations
Glasgow 3927 39 pax
Manchester 5438 52 pax
Jersey 2369 37 pax
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Why would they drop the fee ?
Every other UK airport seem to have a similar fee in place its just BOH seems to get a continuing bad wrap especially from the local rag about it
You might possibibly see it drop to a £ 1-50 at some point but wouldnt hold your breath
Every other UK airport seem to have a similar fee in place its just BOH seems to get a continuing bad wrap especially from the local rag about it
You might possibibly see it drop to a £ 1-50 at some point but wouldnt hold your breath
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Drop off fee
Although it does not bother me, it really winds up the local natives. Never really know why. Some even deliberately go to Gatwick to avoid, which the irony is never lost on me as fuel or taxi fare is obviously much more than £ 2.50. I think the fact that SOU is free to drop off and has a railways station on the doorstep does not help BOH in its marketing as a local airport..
Why does it annoy them ?
The fact that it is an outrageous imposition to charge you for letting someone out of/into the car might have something to do with it !
Bournemouth, & other airports, might need to get their grasping fingers on every little bit of revenue that they can, but these sort of charges are beyond the pail !
The same does not happen if You drop someone off at the library, hospital, bus station, rail station, football pitch etc.- or, does it ? Why on earth has it been allowed at airports ?
The fact that it is an outrageous imposition to charge you for letting someone out of/into the car might have something to do with it !
Bournemouth, & other airports, might need to get their grasping fingers on every little bit of revenue that they can, but these sort of charges are beyond the pail !
The same does not happen if You drop someone off at the library, hospital, bus station, rail station, football pitch etc.- or, does it ? Why on earth has it been allowed at airports ?
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'The fact that it is an outrageous imposition to charge you for letting someone out of/into the car might have something to do with it !
Bournemouth, & other airports, might need to get their grasping fingers on every little bit of revenue that they can, but these sort of charges are beyond the pail !'
The airport has a right to make a profit doesn't it? As i understand it the car parking and drop off charges have kept it afloat. It would be far better from the airports PR point of view not to have to charge but where does the revenue come from then? You can't force people to shop / eat etc in the airport and you can't put a surcharge on tickets as the low cost airlines just refuse. Stuck with car parks.
Bournemouth, & other airports, might need to get their grasping fingers on every little bit of revenue that they can, but these sort of charges are beyond the pail !'
The airport has a right to make a profit doesn't it? As i understand it the car parking and drop off charges have kept it afloat. It would be far better from the airports PR point of view not to have to charge but where does the revenue come from then? You can't force people to shop / eat etc in the airport and you can't put a surcharge on tickets as the low cost airlines just refuse. Stuck with car parks.
It is perhaps legal (if unfair) that an airport should charge drivers wishing to bring their vehicle onto land owned by the airpory company.
It is rather less reasonable if an airport prohibits passengers entering the airpory facility via the main gate from a public highway on the grounds of health and safety and the airport provides no obvious alternate way for passengers who have already purchased a flight ticket to enter the airport without having to pay an additional fee.
It is rather less reasonable if an airport prohibits passengers entering the airpory facility via the main gate from a public highway on the grounds of health and safety and the airport provides no obvious alternate way for passengers who have already purchased a flight ticket to enter the airport without having to pay an additional fee.
Yes, the airport needs to make a profit to be viable. I simply feel that this is a pernicious method of achieving it. If this was introduced at my local airport, I would get out at the roundabout (at the airport entrance) & walk the 200 yards to the terminal. I have a right to avoid such charges (just as much as the airport needs to make a profit).
I don't know if Bournemouth Airport paid for the road to the terminal but, if it did it must only have been fairly recently & it can't have cost much, as when I was at the College of ATC, I remember that it was a short walk from the main road. That is where I would get out of the car.
Out if interest, do they still charge you if you simply drive up & then out again without dropping anyone off ? And if not, why not ? you are using the road too.
I don't know if Bournemouth Airport paid for the road to the terminal but, if it did it must only have been fairly recently & it can't have cost much, as when I was at the College of ATC, I remember that it was a short walk from the main road. That is where I would get out of the car.
Out if interest, do they still charge you if you simply drive up & then out again without dropping anyone off ? And if not, why not ? you are using the road too.