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Nothing that hasn't already been reported here. Still it does show BOH is slowly heading in the right direction again
They're back: Ryanair confirms new winter timetable for Bournemouth Airport (From Bournemouth Echo)
They're back: Ryanair confirms new winter timetable for Bournemouth Airport (From Bournemouth Echo)
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I think the news that BOH will have a based B747-8i BBJ is more significant than the Ryanair news, but yes very good start to an improving outlook.
Just need KLM to announce BOH and for easyJet to get that rumored Spanish flight on sale.
On the negative side, what's going on with Bath Travel? their website has taken a very strange turn and looks worryingly like they may be going under.
Just need KLM to announce BOH and for easyJet to get that rumored Spanish flight on sale.
On the negative side, what's going on with Bath Travel? their website has taken a very strange turn and looks worryingly like they may be going under.
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Why is basing a 747-800 more significant than Ryanair? In terms of income and longevity, getting the Harps to fly all year round is very important. Not too sure the odd movement of a -800 BBJ will keep Hurn afloat!
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So if a 748 BBJ is going to be based at BOH I take it some sensible people have made some calculations and know its possible however...
from here:
Boeing 747 8 VIP Price, Specs, Interior, Pictures
Minimum Take Off Distance = 3291.84m
from here:
AirportWatch | Bournemouth International airport
BOH Runway Length = 2271m
I'm in no way saying the above measurements are correct and feel free to correct them if they are miles out - but a difference of 1020m should cause some major issues if this aircraft is to be based at BOH?
from here:
Boeing 747 8 VIP Price, Specs, Interior, Pictures
Minimum Take Off Distance = 3291.84m
from here:
AirportWatch | Bournemouth International airport
BOH Runway Length = 2271m
I'm in no way saying the above measurements are correct and feel free to correct them if they are miles out - but a difference of 1020m should cause some major issues if this aircraft is to be based at BOH?
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That take-off distance is totally wrong. I can't find the spec's for a BBJ but Boeing's technical data says a lightly loaded B747-8i or -8F only needs 6,000-7,000 ft to get off the deck. (approx 1830m to 2130m)
Without hundreds of seats or internal cargo handing equipment, the BBJ would probably have a lower empty weight and would perform better an -8i or 8F.
Without hundreds of seats or internal cargo handing equipment, the BBJ would probably have a lower empty weight and would perform better an -8i or 8F.
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So if a 748 BBJ is going to be based at BOH I take it some sensible people have made some calculations and know its possible however...
from here:
Boeing 747 8 VIP Price, Specs, Interior, Pictures
Minimum Take Off Distance = 3291.84m
from here:
Boeing 747 8 VIP Price, Specs, Interior, Pictures
Minimum Take Off Distance = 3291.84m
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Lets not get into big debate about facts and figures and armchair advisors giving there advice about this development of a 747 800 operating from Bournemouth !
Its good news for the airport and like the Ryanair news hopefully things are now turning a corner slowly
Its good news for the airport and like the Ryanair news hopefully things are now turning a corner slowly
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Cardiff Aviation Limited, the aircraft maintenance and flight training organisation established in July 2012 by Iron Maiden vocalist Bruce Dickinson and business partner Mario Fulgoni, has acquired European Skybus flight training.
The European Skybus flight training centre was acquired from the European Aviation Group for an undisclosed sum.
The centre – which will remain in Bournemouth for the time being – is an Approved Training Organisation (UK/CAA GBR.ATO.0247) and can perform Type Ratings for Boeing 747 aircraft types, approved by the UK/CAA and JAA/EASA authorities.
Its Boeing 737, 747-200/300 Combi, B747-400, BAC 1-11 400/500, and Sikorsky S61N helicopter simulators are used by airlines and aircraft operators worldwide for initial flight crew training as well as MCC, JetOC, IR revalidations, recurrent and refresher training.
“This is an exciting addition to the Cardiff Aviation portfolio of businesses and services,” said Mario Fulgoni, Joint CEO of Cardiff Aviation Limited.
“For the time being, the flight training centre will remain located at Bournemouth International Airport [BOH] on the south coast of the United Kingdom, but we are likely to incorporate it into our base at St Athan, South Wales in due course.”
The 13 acre site offers airside access to a private apron, with customer aircraft parking. A team of full-time engineers maintains the simulators.
Cardiff Aviation was launched in mid-2012 by Iron Maiden singer and aviation entrepreneur Bruce Dickinson, who is himself a 7,000 hour Boeing 757 pilot, and Mario Fulgoni, a seasoned senior aviation manager and former airline captain. It has 132,000 square feet of hangar space capable of accommodating aircraft up to the size of a Boeing 767-300, and parking for up to 20 narrow bodied commercial airliners. St Athan has a 6,000 ft runway.
As well as maintenance of airliners and other large aircraft for several major and independent airlines, Cardiff Aviation has facilities to complete the full range of ancillary aircraft maintenance and training activities and has the expertise and approvals to certify aircraft from many jurisdictions.
Cardiff Aviation has considerable in-house expertise. However, joint ventures and partnerships – current and to-be-announced – all based under one roof at Cardiff Aviation’s St Athan base, massively extend that resource and expertise offering into a vast array of markets.
The European Skybus flight training centre was acquired from the European Aviation Group for an undisclosed sum.
The centre – which will remain in Bournemouth for the time being – is an Approved Training Organisation (UK/CAA GBR.ATO.0247) and can perform Type Ratings for Boeing 747 aircraft types, approved by the UK/CAA and JAA/EASA authorities.
Its Boeing 737, 747-200/300 Combi, B747-400, BAC 1-11 400/500, and Sikorsky S61N helicopter simulators are used by airlines and aircraft operators worldwide for initial flight crew training as well as MCC, JetOC, IR revalidations, recurrent and refresher training.
“This is an exciting addition to the Cardiff Aviation portfolio of businesses and services,” said Mario Fulgoni, Joint CEO of Cardiff Aviation Limited.
“For the time being, the flight training centre will remain located at Bournemouth International Airport [BOH] on the south coast of the United Kingdom, but we are likely to incorporate it into our base at St Athan, South Wales in due course.”
The 13 acre site offers airside access to a private apron, with customer aircraft parking. A team of full-time engineers maintains the simulators.
Cardiff Aviation was launched in mid-2012 by Iron Maiden singer and aviation entrepreneur Bruce Dickinson, who is himself a 7,000 hour Boeing 757 pilot, and Mario Fulgoni, a seasoned senior aviation manager and former airline captain. It has 132,000 square feet of hangar space capable of accommodating aircraft up to the size of a Boeing 767-300, and parking for up to 20 narrow bodied commercial airliners. St Athan has a 6,000 ft runway.
As well as maintenance of airliners and other large aircraft for several major and independent airlines, Cardiff Aviation has facilities to complete the full range of ancillary aircraft maintenance and training activities and has the expertise and approvals to certify aircraft from many jurisdictions.
Cardiff Aviation has considerable in-house expertise. However, joint ventures and partnerships – current and to-be-announced – all based under one roof at Cardiff Aviation’s St Athan base, massively extend that resource and expertise offering into a vast array of markets.
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Great news for Bruce and Cardiff Aviation Limited. Their portfolio of offerings just down the road at St. Athan is forever growing, and this is a further offering to add to the vast array of things already offered. They stated upon start-up that they will acquire sims for B747 type ratings and even more, so this comes as no surprise.
Also, the customer base acquired as a result of this acquisition will greatly enhance the operation. And yes, in the not so distant future the facility will move to St. Athan, which in itself is a VERY large site.
Also, the customer base acquired as a result of this acquisition will greatly enhance the operation. And yes, in the not so distant future the facility will move to St. Athan, which in itself is a VERY large site.
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Will this affect many jobs at BOH? If pilots come from 'all over the world' to use these sims, surely the loss of this to Wales is bad for Bmth?
Not all staff will want to move to Wales.
Regarding Skybus, can I confirm that this has nothing to do with European's other operations like lease/spares support/aircraft/maintenance/paint shop/bbj's etc.?
Not all staff will want to move to Wales.
Regarding Skybus, can I confirm that this has nothing to do with European's other operations like lease/spares support/aircraft/maintenance/paint shop/bbj's etc.?
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Utter tosh, turboprop. There are no requirements for anyone in Cardiff Aviation to speak Welsh.
May I suggest if you can't add anything of value to the conversation, you keep your childish views to yourself?
PJ
May I suggest if you can't add anything of value to the conversation, you keep your childish views to yourself?
PJ
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Bournemouth handled 78 , 807 passengers in June down 7 . 5 %
Quite surprised at the figures for June down on most services for some un known reason even taking into account French ATC
Dublin is a concern still with only 1265 passengers using it making an average of 35 pax on a 42 seater . this changed though in July to 6 services a week with a new departure time
Thomson have added Palma and Rhodes to there winter/spring departures in 2014 for the month of April
Quite surprised at the figures for June down on most services for some un known reason even taking into account French ATC
Dublin is a concern still with only 1265 passengers using it making an average of 35 pax on a 42 seater . this changed though in July to 6 services a week with a new departure time
Thomson have added Palma and Rhodes to there winter/spring departures in 2014 for the month of April
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Could it be that passenger numbers were higher last June due to the Spring Bank Holiday (along with school half-terms) being moved to June because of the extra Queen's Jubilee holiday?
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EIR
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Although I hate to say it but possibly in a few months or within the year at least and I think the EIR DUB-BOH will be gone which is a shame as the route could have had high potential with both inbound and outbound pax and with the link up at Dublin for USA routes as well.
The flights are obviously not attracting the loads that were expected hence the down size of aircraft and frequency.
But hopefully EIR can sustain this route in the future with the current schedule.
Although I hate to say it but possibly in a few months or within the year at least and I think the EIR DUB-BOH will be gone which is a shame as the route could have had high potential with both inbound and outbound pax and with the link up at Dublin for USA routes as well.
The flights are obviously not attracting the loads that were expected hence the down size of aircraft and frequency.
But hopefully EIR can sustain this route in the future with the current schedule.