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Old 16th Jan 2013, 06:57
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Vueling

IF they were in BOH for talks, the airport operator isn't the only aviation company on the site, so could just as easily have been talking about a painting contract, etc, etc as opening a route.
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Cool vueling

Madrid-Bournemouth would be a very good route as Ryan' did this and got aoads of 85%+. Mystery why they dropped it. I had Spanish people staying with me last year and some had travelled across Spainby bus from as far as Compestella to Girona Airport ,just to get a flight direct to Bournemouth!
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Exactly BOH ..........a little bit of patience and optimism would do this thread a world of good.

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It's a long way to fly an empty plane for a meeting about anything... this is why Spain is in such bad economic state!
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I thought someone said Vueling were expanding services !

Great P R..especially to send an a/c with huge "Thankyou" to 5 million customers on the side.
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Whatever the reason for the visit to BOH of the Vueling aircraft, what really surprises me is the apparent lack of inside information that any of the regular BOH thread posters are able to obtain. An aircraft arrives, apparently empty, stays on the apron for six hours and departs, again apparently empty. Yet no one at BOH seems to have any information beyond that - not even to the extent of knowing its departure point and destination.
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Yet no one at BOH seems to have any information beyond that - not even to the extent of knowing its departure point and destination.
See Wycombe's post #408
A Vueling A320 was present for a planned visit of about 6 hours on Friday, departing to and from BCN. Interesting??
Also my post #35 on Vueling thread
It arrived from Barcelona with a positioning flight call sign VLG905P, stayed by the terminal for 6 hours and returned to Barcelona as VLG906P.
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Thanks for that Le Tirer.
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Vueling A320 sold to anon UK buyer for parts. Will salvage main gear, nose wheel, interior and engines, then scrap the rest.
Vueling to keep for remainder of winter season.
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Quote from a different website...

"... it came in with representatives on board on a fact finding trip with a view to possibly running a service from Bournemouth in the future."


I see Vueling flies to Cardiff from Alicante, Barcelona, Malaga and Palma. Would these be viable from Bournemouth alongside Ryanair/Thomson?

I can see Madrid being a real earner for them, but don't forget it also has bases in Amsterdam, Paris and Rome, they are all possibles!
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Quote from a different website...

"... it came in with representatives on board on a fact finding trip with a view to possibly running a service from Bournemouth in the future."
There were no reps on board, just the crew. A/C arrived, engineer turned up and inspected it, paperwork was signed and the a/c departed.
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Old 19th Jan 2013, 06:33
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Now that MAG has won the Auction for STD.

Will they keep Bournemouth ....?
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So now MAG are the new owners of Stansted will BOH go by the wayside even more? I know MAG have given BOH 3 years to become profitable otherwise it will be off loaded, will this be the opportunity for MAG to sell it on to help pay for Stansted? I know it was discussed a few months back.
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So now MAG are the new owners of Stansted will BOH go by the wayside even more? I know MAG have given BOH 3 years to become profitable otherwise it will be off loaded, will this be the opportunity for MAG to sell it on to help pay for Stansted? I know it was discussed a few months back.
If anything, MAG have more power to their elbow when it comes to doing deals with airlines. And do you really think that £1,500,000,000 can be recouped by selling Bournemouth. If the sell off of Humberside is anything to go by where are you going to find the other £1,498,000,000. MAG have jumped into bed with a pension firm, IFM, who have in turn acquired shares in MAG.
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Old 19th Jan 2013, 08:04
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I think the concern for BOH is they are a little fish in what is now a much bigger pond, and will MAG have the capacity to develop all the airports in the group?
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Old 19th Jan 2013, 08:21
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Don't forget that (a) STN profits were greater than MAG profits (b) the Australian company now owns 30% of MAG. Both of these should free up some money for investment; I don't envisage a lot of work being done on STN as there should be room for that airport to grow without any spending on its terminal for a good few years.
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Old 20th Jan 2013, 10:27
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Strategic view

BAA (SP) owns Heathrow and Southampton.

Southampton has an overlapping catchment with Heathrow, so it is in their interest to limit capacity development at SOU.

If I was running MAG, i'd want to compete effectively with BAA (SP) on all fronts and BOH can certainly do that with SOU.
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My concern would be not about the financial resources but the capacity of management to keep all the plates spinning. STN is a huge addition to MAG. Does it have the resources to move forward on all fronts or will there be a natural tendency to concentrate on the new kid on the block meaning that the smaller parts of the group like BOH will suffer?
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Old 21st Jan 2013, 03:23
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Good point, but think more positively. The larger bargaining power that MAG holds could assist BOH. In negotiations (not just with airlines) BOH could benefit from the power and louder voice that MAG has.

If an independent and/or smaller airport company was operating BOH then there are just as many disadvantages and perhaps less bargaining power.

MAG is closer to the LCC's than BAA ever will - thats also an advantage.

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Old 21st Jan 2013, 12:52
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Bournemouth handled a small 13 , 849 passengers in December down marginally on last Dec

With the loss of the Las Palmas route and 2 less Easy Jet flights a week not to bad all things considering

Dublin route saw 1862 with a load of about 47 passengers per flight
Turin saw 561 passengers with good loads of 187 pax

Easy Jet started mid Dec and saw 3850 passengers , with about 120 pax per flight using a A319 a/c
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