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Both A330's need MX, but as far as I know it will only be G-WWBM that will be repainted at this time. As mentioned just to have Star Alliance removed. It will more than likely remain all white, G-MIDS/X have similar fate I believe.
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As it would seem that the A330 aren't coming to BA does anyone know what livery there getting painted into ?
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BCALBOY -
I am midland and I'm looking forward to the new challenge coming to Airways!!!
Our existing tc's are nothing like mixed fleet ones.
we are best matched to eurofleet plus about 50 of us have had 6-7yrs+ longhaul flying on widebody 330 when Midland started the Mumbais.
The majority of us would be happy with mixed fleet although if you put the crew on mixed fleet earning £1000 a month the majority will leave within the 3mths. leaving BA desperately short of crew.
Dont get me wrong I will be greatful to have a job but i am not working for peanuts as I wont be able to afford my mortgage.
I am midland and I'm looking forward to the new challenge coming to Airways!!!
Our existing tc's are nothing like mixed fleet ones.
we are best matched to eurofleet plus about 50 of us have had 6-7yrs+ longhaul flying on widebody 330 when Midland started the Mumbais.
The majority of us would be happy with mixed fleet although if you put the crew on mixed fleet earning £1000 a month the majority will leave within the 3mths. leaving BA desperately short of crew.
Dont get me wrong I will be greatful to have a job but i am not working for peanuts as I wont be able to afford my mortgage.
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Let's be honest our T&C's are nothing at all like BA's but at least that MAY keep us away from Mixed Fleet flying due to them being superior than theirs 
and onto the other fleets where ours are inferior.
and onto the other fleets where ours are inferior.
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Iberia ordered 8 new A330-300's powered by GE which arrive in 2013.
The BMI A330's are older -200's powered by RR.
Iberia do not currently operate any A330's.
Can't quite see IB taking on the two BMI A330's, unless IB urgently need short-term fill-in longhaul capacity. But then so might BA if the BMI deal goes through.
IB would probably find some cheap used A340's that are reasonably compatible with their current A340 fleet a better fill-in option longer term, especially if contemplating operating their pilots on a pooled A330 / A340 fleet.
Maybe a damp-lease of the BMI A330's to IB is on the cards, as BMI recently did for Turkish Airlines. Especially if a pilot surplus is on the cards.
babybaby
The BMI A330's are older -200's powered by RR.
Iberia do not currently operate any A330's.
Can't quite see IB taking on the two BMI A330's, unless IB urgently need short-term fill-in longhaul capacity. But then so might BA if the BMI deal goes through.
IB would probably find some cheap used A340's that are reasonably compatible with their current A340 fleet a better fill-in option longer term, especially if contemplating operating their pilots on a pooled A330 / A340 fleet.
Maybe a damp-lease of the BMI A330's to IB is on the cards, as BMI recently did for Turkish Airlines. Especially if a pilot surplus is on the cards.
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WHBM
I'd be very interested to hear more about your Inverness to LHR bmi flight... a route that BD has certainly not operated at any time since the BMED aquisition.!!!?? Yes these aircraft do have a large Business cabin at the front, a necessity to accomodate the business class passengers who pay more for their tickets which typically represent a higher proportion of the load on the Mid-haul routes than on other services using narrow body aircraft.
I'd be very interested to hear more about your Inverness to LHR bmi flight... a route that BD has certainly not operated at any time since the BMED aquisition.!!!?? Yes these aircraft do have a large Business cabin at the front, a necessity to accomodate the business class passengers who pay more for their tickets which typically represent a higher proportion of the load on the Mid-haul routes than on other services using narrow body aircraft.
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I'd be very interested to hear more about your Inverness to LHR bmi flight... a route that BD has certainly not operated at any time since the BMED aquisition.!!!?? Yes these aircraft do have a large Business cabin at the front, a necessity to accomodate the business class passengers who pay more for their tickets which typically represent a higher proportion of the load on the Mid-haul routes than on other services using narrow body aircraft.
I'd be very interested to hear more about your Inverness to LHR bmi flight... a route that BD has certainly not operated at any time since the BMED aquisition.!!!?? Yes these aircraft do have a large Business cabin at the front, a necessity to accomodate the business class passengers who pay more for their tickets which typically represent a higher proportion of the load on the Mid-haul routes than on other services using narrow body aircraft.
B.Med acquired March 2007 (thanks Cyrano. And thanks Microsoft Outlook for holding all my travel detals !)
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"B.Med configured A320 G-MEDH in BMI livery"
Do you mean the hybrid livery? BMI decals over the BA Union flag base livery?
No BMED aircraft were at this time in full bmi livery. On the route though i do apologise as I forgot these were the dying days of the INV!
Do you mean the hybrid livery? BMI decals over the BA Union flag base livery?
No BMED aircraft were at this time in full bmi livery. On the route though i do apologise as I forgot these were the dying days of the INV!
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Cyrano, firstly, you're quite right, I was mistaken as to how long the INV route was operated, I should have checked my facts. Also WHBM I don't know why the ground staff told you the flight was full, that will be forever unexplained, maybe they were expecting and Embraer!? I'm sure you understand though that stipulated weight and balance tables for particular aircraft layouts (with their constraints) will dictate where the passenger load have to be located on any particular flight. I understand that it might seem all passengers have been crammed into a small area of the cabin without good reason (incidentally I have checked and this service operated with 66 pax on board), other factors such as hold loads etc. would affect the weight and balance for this configuration but they wouldn't have placed all the passengers into the front of the economy for no particular reason. The groundstaff were probably a bit phased by this strangely configured beast arriving in place of the 319!
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I understand it was manual check-in at INV so the staff may have only been given a partial seat map to work with therefore the flight may have looked full taking the usable seats into account.
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Bye-bye Diamond Club
Communication below received yesterday from the mother ship. Hope I'm wrong in my assumption that as/when DC miles are roled into Avios that they will be downgraded.
We'd like to advise you of some forthcoming changes to the bmi Diamond Club programme.
From 19 April 2012, the ability for Diamond Club members to earn Status and Destinations miles and to redeem miles will cease on the Lufthansa Group airlines (Lufthansa, Swiss, Austrian Airlines, and Brussels Airlines).
Any redemption tickets issued prior to this date for travel will be honoured.
All Star Alliance status benefits will remain unaffected by this change.
We are working with British Airways to offer Diamond Club customers the ability to earn and redeem miles on British Airways and its oneworld partners following completion of the sale. We will do everything we can to communicate more detail as soon as possible.
We'd like to advise you of some forthcoming changes to the bmi Diamond Club programme.
From 19 April 2012, the ability for Diamond Club members to earn Status and Destinations miles and to redeem miles will cease on the Lufthansa Group airlines (Lufthansa, Swiss, Austrian Airlines, and Brussels Airlines).
Any redemption tickets issued prior to this date for travel will be honoured.
All Star Alliance status benefits will remain unaffected by this change.
We are working with British Airways to offer Diamond Club customers the ability to earn and redeem miles on British Airways and its oneworld partners following completion of the sale. We will do everything we can to communicate more detail as soon as possible.
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North Stand Tier3, could you be a bit more specific? Is it Donington Hall staff or frontline staff? Baby, Mainline or Regional? Any intel, at all, would be useful
Relying on pprune and travel mole for info:
Relying on pprune and travel mole for info:
BA starts selling bmi flights
British Airways has begun selling selected flights on bmi following approval of BA-parent IAG's takeover of the UK carrier almost two weeks ago by the European Commission.
Bmi flights to the following destinations are now bookable via BA's website:
• Yerevan (Armenia)
• Baku (Azerbaijan)
• Addis Ababa (Ethiopia)
• Tbilisi (Georgia)
• Almaty (Kazakhstan)
• Beirut (Lebanon)
• Freetown (Sierra Leone)
All the above flights have a BA flight number but state that they are operated by bmi.
British Airways Executive Club Member travelling on these routes under a BA flight number will be able to earn Avios and Tier Points.
British Airways has begun selling selected flights on bmi following approval of BA-parent IAG's takeover of the UK carrier almost two weeks ago by the European Commission.
Bmi flights to the following destinations are now bookable via BA's website:
• Yerevan (Armenia)
• Baku (Azerbaijan)
• Addis Ababa (Ethiopia)
• Tbilisi (Georgia)
• Almaty (Kazakhstan)
• Beirut (Lebanon)
• Freetown (Sierra Leone)
All the above flights have a BA flight number but state that they are operated by bmi.
British Airways Executive Club Member travelling on these routes under a BA flight number will be able to earn Avios and Tier Points.
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Dear Colleagues,
Since my last update to you we have had further discussions with BA and have now completed the integration proposals for bmi mainline. For bmi Regional and bmibaby, discussions with potential buyers continue.
As you know, the integration of the bmi mainline business into BA is crucial in order to achieve the synergies needed to make the business viable. It is therefore important that we act fast, so today we will begin a 90 day consultation with our union partners and elected representatives who were not part of the commercial consultation. At the meetings we will consult on proposals to integrate bmi mainline into BA.
The proposal is to completely integrate bmi into BA in time for the start of the winter 2012 schedule. This means that the bmi brand will disappear and our fleet will be repainted in British Airways’ livery and transferred to BA in a phased manner. The bmi AOC will cease to exist after the integration process has been completed. All commercial and operational activities will be integrated into BA and the head office and support functions will be absorbed.
The operational integration at LHR would secure jobs for up to 1,500 bmi mainline staff. Around 1,100 bmi cabin crew, pilots and engineers based at Heathrow would join BA and up to 400 passenger services jobs would be secured at Heathrow Terminal 1.
Regrettably, the integration proposals will lead to up to 1,200 redundancies. These roles are primarily based in the Midlands, at regional airports and in support, commercial and overhead functions. In the case of redundancies bmi's redundancy arrangements would apply.
We deeply regret that there will be job losses. Please understand that integration was the best possible solution for our business. *Consultation will seek to mitigate the impact of these potential redundancies, including matching to vacancies in British Airways at Heathrow. BA and bmi are also working on potential job opportunities with industry partners in the Midlands, such as Rolls-Royce.
Today a number of staff briefings will take place in key locations and the details of these meetings will be communicated to you shortly.
Please note that until completion takes place, which is expected around 20th April, there are still restrictions on the exchange of information; your manager can provide guidance as needed.
We will continue to keep you updated and you can continue to contact the XXXX email address with any queries you may have. We will publish those questions we can answer at this stage on the dedicated section on the bmi group intranet.
With best regards,
Wolfgang Prock-Schauer
Since my last update to you we have had further discussions with BA and have now completed the integration proposals for bmi mainline. For bmi Regional and bmibaby, discussions with potential buyers continue.
As you know, the integration of the bmi mainline business into BA is crucial in order to achieve the synergies needed to make the business viable. It is therefore important that we act fast, so today we will begin a 90 day consultation with our union partners and elected representatives who were not part of the commercial consultation. At the meetings we will consult on proposals to integrate bmi mainline into BA.
The proposal is to completely integrate bmi into BA in time for the start of the winter 2012 schedule. This means that the bmi brand will disappear and our fleet will be repainted in British Airways’ livery and transferred to BA in a phased manner. The bmi AOC will cease to exist after the integration process has been completed. All commercial and operational activities will be integrated into BA and the head office and support functions will be absorbed.
The operational integration at LHR would secure jobs for up to 1,500 bmi mainline staff. Around 1,100 bmi cabin crew, pilots and engineers based at Heathrow would join BA and up to 400 passenger services jobs would be secured at Heathrow Terminal 1.
Regrettably, the integration proposals will lead to up to 1,200 redundancies. These roles are primarily based in the Midlands, at regional airports and in support, commercial and overhead functions. In the case of redundancies bmi's redundancy arrangements would apply.
We deeply regret that there will be job losses. Please understand that integration was the best possible solution for our business. *Consultation will seek to mitigate the impact of these potential redundancies, including matching to vacancies in British Airways at Heathrow. BA and bmi are also working on potential job opportunities with industry partners in the Midlands, such as Rolls-Royce.
Today a number of staff briefings will take place in key locations and the details of these meetings will be communicated to you shortly.
Please note that until completion takes place, which is expected around 20th April, there are still restrictions on the exchange of information; your manager can provide guidance as needed.
We will continue to keep you updated and you can continue to contact the XXXX email address with any queries you may have. We will publish those questions we can answer at this stage on the dedicated section on the bmi group intranet.
With best regards,
Wolfgang Prock-Schauer