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A nice outfit yes, profitable not so sure. I think it teetered along the edge of the abyss, nearly going over a couple of times only to be saved by Lufthansa money/contracts, before joining the Airlines of Gt Britain Group. Rumour was before joining the above there was funds to operate for about a week.
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If the consortium cant come up with the money. Where does that leave Bmir?
The only logical places I can see them going are to Eastern, or into Flybe (Ba have a reasonable financial interest in them). I suspect both of these options would lead to route/fleet cuts in some form.
The only logical places I can see them going are to Eastern, or into Flybe (Ba have a reasonable financial interest in them). I suspect both of these options would lead to route/fleet cuts in some form.
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Back in the days of Business Air, British aviation was a very different beast & operated in a different market. Certainly in the intervening years the tax regime for airline passengers has changed beyond recognition. The fleet they operated if I recall was Saab 340's.
A number of those routes which may have made sense back then would struggle to make money today, on a 340 let alone an E135/145.
I'm not saying these people couldn't make it work, but I can't see a return to the old days & old ways being a good model for the present day.
Either way, here's hoping for some news soon: all this uncertainty is no fun for the employees caught up in the current process.
A number of those routes which may have made sense back then would struggle to make money today, on a 340 let alone an E135/145.
I'm not saying these people couldn't make it work, but I can't see a return to the old days & old ways being a good model for the present day.
Either way, here's hoping for some news soon: all this uncertainty is no fun for the employees caught up in the current process.
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flogging a dead horse
In this economic climate,Can you imagine anyone putting money into a company that's losing money?
If the answer is yes then you probably own
1.Catch me if you can "special edition"
2.Recordings of Panam
3.All the Harry potter dvd's
4.Cloth wing's sewn into your pyjamas.
And one or both of the following
A huge mortgage
A hefty car loan
And Eastern are not interested!,They're favouring putting loads of thier
spare cash into the rebirth of Dansette Record Players,,"A far safer option".
Reality advice from the buildaburger!!!
If the answer is yes then you probably own
1.Catch me if you can "special edition"
2.Recordings of Panam
3.All the Harry potter dvd's
4.Cloth wing's sewn into your pyjamas.
And one or both of the following
A huge mortgage
A hefty car loan
And Eastern are not interested!,They're favouring putting loads of thier
spare cash into the rebirth of Dansette Record Players,,"A far safer option".
Reality advice from the buildaburger!!!
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If the consortium cant come up with the money. Where does that leave Bmir?
The only logical places I can see them going are to Eastern, or into Flybe
The only logical places I can see them going are to Eastern, or into Flybe
If loganair took on BMI Regional they could use the larger E145 aircraft to open up new direct routes on behalf of BE from scottish regional airports to Europe and Scandanavia.
The 4 smaller E135 aircraft could be integrated into the Suckling Airways fleets. Working alongside the D328 aircraft the E135's would allow Suckling to offer specialist charter flights to more destanations
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How about to Loganair?
buildaburger, try and contribute something sensible instead of beer fuelled rubbish. Tw@t.
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I think LOG have been around for so long partially because they are generally quite cautious and haven't really gone for large expansion. Taking on BD Reg and their 145s would be a fairly big change with the jets, international ops etc and I think they'd maybe be wary about that. Grier was quoted in the papers the other day saying LOG were well placed to take on routes that other carriers dropped, so their strategy re BD Reg may be to wait for them to go to the wall and then take on the type of routes that fit for them and their Saabs, like maybe GLA/EDI-LBA.
What do SN think of all this, given that BD Reg op quite a few UK-BRU routes that feed into SN's BRU hub?
What do SN think of all this, given that BD Reg op quite a few UK-BRU routes that feed into SN's BRU hub?
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Diamond Club Miles
Does anybody know what will happen to Diamond Club miles? Will they be transferred to Avios, will LH want them transferred to Miles and More or will they be useless?
I have built up enough to take me around the world and I dont want to wake up one fine and realise that they are worthless...
Any advice???
EI-BUD
I have built up enough to take me around the world and I dont want to wake up one fine and realise that they are worthless...
Any advice???
EI-BUD
EI-BUD
I think you have quite a few months before this needs to be looked at. This is the quote from Wolfgang Prock-Schauer and seems to suggest that W12/13 will be the start of the integrated business.
A quick e-mail to the Diamond Club might be a start?
I think you have quite a few months before this needs to be looked at. This is the quote from Wolfgang Prock-Schauer and seems to suggest that W12/13 will be the start of the integrated business.
After completion has been achieved, for a period of time bmi will operate under its own AOC. Until further information is given to you, the current set up of the company remains unchanged. We need to carry on managing the bmi business for 2012 as normal and our summer 2012 network is currently planned without any major changes
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Thanks ETOPS, I tried to email via the log in for diamond club. The only communication I could make was feedback, I'm not sure there is a commitment of a reply. There didn't seem to be an email address in the contact us section. Only emails to departments seemed to be specifically so.
Will take another look.
Ei-bud
Will take another look.
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On another site for frequent flyers the opinion seems to be that BD will exit *A on completion of the deal. There's quite a lot of speculation about the future of DC but no-one really knows yet. But there's a lot of mile burning going on ...
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Flight Deck - about 90% ok IAG will just get rid of the dead wood,poor sickness records
Cabin Crew- see flight deck
Ground Staff- tricky one i suppose some at LHR will be offered jobs , out stations without BA bases prob ok for while to see if route continues,those with bases probably at risk, those at the hall prob 80% will be made redundant poss 20% offered positions with IAG
cant see it going any other way
as for the timescale i suspect bmi will cease to exist after summer 2012
Cabin Crew- see flight deck
Ground Staff- tricky one i suppose some at LHR will be offered jobs , out stations without BA bases prob ok for while to see if route continues,those with bases probably at risk, those at the hall prob 80% will be made redundant poss 20% offered positions with IAG
cant see it going any other way
as for the timescale i suspect bmi will cease to exist after summer 2012
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BBC News - Stuck on the runway
Douglas Frasier being as optimistic as ever.
whatever the outcome would like to know it now!
Douglas Frasier being as optimistic as ever.
whatever the outcome would like to know it now!
I certainly had it confirmed today from a friend at the Hall that they had been told last friday that IAG intend to integrate BMI in to BA and the implication was that there would be no need to retain the Hall. TUPE rules will apply & that includes redundancy terms for those that won't or can't move or who BA don't want. Interestingly, the hall is a listed building so BA can't just leave it to rot - they have to have a plan to preserve the listed part until, presumably, its sold.