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Old 29th Dec 2016, 20:49
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Whats the latest on Ryanair for S17? Still a gap from around 12pm to 4:30pm on Tue, Wed, Thur, Sat and Sun? I'm sure they won't have the aircraft sitting round for a few hours?
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Old 30th Dec 2016, 11:22
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It will probably be middle of next week at earliest before FR and EZY will finalise summer schedule, unless anyone knows different
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Old 31st Dec 2016, 00:15
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See IAG airlines cancelled a few LHR flights today from BHD, Both BA and EI. BE cancelled all LCY rotations also. FR cancelled one LGW and EZY one STN. Back in the day BA would have thrown in an L10-11 or latterly a 767 in order get pax to where they were going. Unfortunately, as Willie has stated," the problem with BHD is most of our aircraft can't land or take of from city airport"'
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Old 31st Dec 2016, 10:04
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as Willie has stated," the problem with BHD is most of our aircraft can't land or take of from city airport"'
It's a close-run thing, "most". 132 aircraft in the BA fleet are A320 family versus 138 others
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Old 31st Dec 2016, 13:00
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Originally Posted by DC9_10
See IAG airlines cancelled a few LHR flights today from BHD, Both BA and EI. BE cancelled all LCY rotations also. FR cancelled one LGW and EZY one STN. Back in the day BA would have thrown in an L10-11 or latterly a 767 in order get pax to where they were going. Unfortunately, as Willie has stated," the problem with BHD is most of our aircraft can't land or take of from city airport"'
Problem is, the majority of flights across the network were affected - where do you send the widebody?
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Old 31st Dec 2016, 15:19
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where do you send the widebody?
I believe a 744 ran LHR-CDG and back yesterday (Fri) evening, so some backlog-clearing flights are being operated.
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Old 5th Jan 2017, 14:03
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Jet2 running a one of flight to New York EWR on the 14th December 2017.

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Old 6th Jan 2017, 06:19
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2016 pax numbers

Telegraph saying BFS pax numbers up 33% in December with final 2016 pax numbers at 5.15 million up 17% on the year.
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Old 6th Jan 2017, 09:36
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Any updates on whats happening to the Easyjet route to Bhx.
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Old 6th Jan 2017, 14:09
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Belfast International passenger numbers surge with new US route on cards

Belfast International Airport says it is "very close" to securing a replacement direct flight to the US as passenger numbers reached record levels of 5.15 million for 2016.

According to the airport, the amount of people passing through the arrivals and departures halls increased by more than 17% last year.

However, the hub is losing Northern Ireland's only transatlantic service, to Newark, after United Airlines announced it was pulling the plug. Its last flight will be on Monday.

But airport boss Graham Keddie says it is "pursuing a number of positive leads" for a new service to America.

He said growth was driven by inbound visitors, as well as those from the Republic, and he was confident Aldergrove could increase passengers to 5.4 million this year.

Belfast International passenger numbers surge with new US route on cards - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
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Old 6th Jan 2017, 14:12
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Who else is there? United were the only US airline to fly to minorish European airport's.
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Old 6th Jan 2017, 14:34
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I don't know, maybe a Norweigan 737?

With United now bringing a 777-200 from EWR and a 767-300 from ORD, there is pretty much only 1 or 2 routes from Dublin which are now operated by narrowbody aircraft.

It used to be that around 40-50% of the transatlantic flights were operated by 757-200. This change in seat capacity shows how much Dublin has grown. I guess Dublin has pretty much taken up most of the demand that existed from Northern Ireland.

A 737 sized aircraft (150 seats) is the most that I can see being feasible from Belfast. I don't know what airline would do this other than Norwegian.
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Old 6th Jan 2017, 14:36
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Who used to operate 757's? Any 757 capacity removed has been added to by Aer Lingus adding 757's.

The question of is there actually demand must be asked.
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Old 6th Jan 2017, 14:41
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Bfs - Lgw route up by 388,486 pax or 83%, 2016 vs 2015. So route was used by 858,830 pax in 2016.
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Old 6th Jan 2017, 14:47
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Well United had 4x daily 757's at one point, American Airlines had 3x daily 757s and Delta had 1x daily 757.

Now, United has 2x 757's, 1 777 and 1 767, American has 3x a330's and 1 757, Delta has 2x a330s. Quite a substantial increase in capacity.
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Old 6th Jan 2017, 15:33
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I have a feeling that if it's a full service carrier, it'll be with Delta Air Lines using a 757. They fly to Edinburgh and are starting seasonal flights to Glasgow, so they seem to be expanding past Manchester/London, though only during the summer months.

I can't see American Airlines doing it, given they've just pulled out of Birmingham.

I'd say if Aer Lingus had remained at BFS, they might have taken over using a 757, though I doubt that BHD has the runway length to handle a 757 for a short sector, never mind transatlantic.

I do hope, even though it's extremely unlikely, that Virgin Atlantic expand out of Belfast as they're doing out of Manchester. Basing an A330/B788 and flying to a mix of Delta hubs and leisure destinations such as Atlanta, Boston, Las Vegas, New York, Orlando 2 or 3 times a week would be a huge leap forward for connectivity with the US, even if it was just during the summer months. But that'll never happen - honestly I'm surprised VA have seen any success in Belfast.

If Norwegian start flying, either to JFK/EWR or somewhere like Stewart Intl, I can't see it being very successful, given the lack of connecting passengers. A seasonal 738 service might be sustainable if flown 3-4 times a week, but certainly not daily.

Whoever takes over the New York service, I'd be very surprised if it was more than 5 weekly flights during the summer and 3 during the winter.

On another note, if Belfast does ever get another Canadian service, I'd be very surprised if it wasn't at Westjet 737 with a stop-over in Halifax/St Johns.
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Old 6th Jan 2017, 20:48
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Wasn't United profitable in the summer months though?

I can't see another American carrier coming in with a 757 again after United's failed endeavour.
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Old 6th Jan 2017, 21:26
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Load factors would suggest that the route was profitable, and pre 2015 (suspended Jan-Mar) United carried almost as many passengers on the Belfast route as on their Birmingham route. The route survived for 11 years, which is rather impressive given BFS is a regional airport, so I think other airlines will be quite interested in flying to Belfast now that there's no competition.
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Old 7th Jan 2017, 00:18
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The route was profitable. It's not about the money it made, it's about the money United could've made elsewhere hence holding the Assembly to ransom. Sad affair really but I think we'll see a replacement ..probably Westjet or Norwegian
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Old 7th Jan 2017, 00:19
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Yield often makes the difference.

BHX also has competition, so BFS having the same package as BHX isn't exactly a great measure of success.
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