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A little disappointed wanted to venture into the dark side to keep an open mind, so went on to book ei for a wee trip to Palma from BHD in June. No flights released thought ei release seats for sale 330 days in advance? Ei bud might shine some light. Suppose it's back to the comfort zone Bfs or dub 😱
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It's unbelievable how this thread attracts the "my da's bigger than your da" brigade. This is supposed to be a place for sensible discussion about our airports and their development, not a playground for infantile willy waving.
So some points;
1. Dublin will always be bigger than BFS or BHD. It's home to a national flag carrier, has massive traffic with the US courtesy of generations of migration, and is useful to those of us heading that way courtesy of pre-clearance. That's just fact.
2. That doesn't mean that BFS (or BHD) should not seek to maximise their medium / long haul potential. Surely we can justify direct North American connections, and at least a few European business routes alongside the leisure rotations. We're a significant region, just like Scotland, or the North-East, and we like to travel, so let's not knock ambition.
3. We'd be better off with one airport...that would help create the critical mass that would generate new route offerings. But, we have two, and they are both pretty decent. I'm happy to use either. If we could focus on one, then BFS has more potential simply due to runway length and space. But, we have two, so let's get on with it.
4. A football team is for life. An airport is just a sophisticated bus station. Get a football team if you want to get emotionally involved.
5. United must be laughing. Next time round, we need to tender for a subsidised New York route. Lowest subsidy takes it. A 757 (nearly always well packed) from BFS to EWR has to be a sure thing.
6. Well played to those who are bringing USAF C-130s and C-17s here, and also to the guys bringing bizjets through every day...it puts us on the map, and could lead to bigger things.
7. Get a girlfriend. Girlfriends are better than airports. (But not as good as football). I've upgraded to a wife (which is better than football). But I still like football.
8. I do actually like airports too...fascinating places. Heathrow was class before they modernised it all. Schiphol is brilliant, as is Orlando. Can't really warm to Gatwick though. Manchester is friendly. Calgary was just incredibly quiet. BFS has character...you can see how it has grown over the years. BHD is nice, in a Volkswagen Golf sort of way, but that's ok too.
9. I still don't like Ryanair.
Right, I'm away for my dinner. Talk soon.
So some points;
1. Dublin will always be bigger than BFS or BHD. It's home to a national flag carrier, has massive traffic with the US courtesy of generations of migration, and is useful to those of us heading that way courtesy of pre-clearance. That's just fact.
2. That doesn't mean that BFS (or BHD) should not seek to maximise their medium / long haul potential. Surely we can justify direct North American connections, and at least a few European business routes alongside the leisure rotations. We're a significant region, just like Scotland, or the North-East, and we like to travel, so let's not knock ambition.
3. We'd be better off with one airport...that would help create the critical mass that would generate new route offerings. But, we have two, and they are both pretty decent. I'm happy to use either. If we could focus on one, then BFS has more potential simply due to runway length and space. But, we have two, so let's get on with it.
4. A football team is for life. An airport is just a sophisticated bus station. Get a football team if you want to get emotionally involved.
5. United must be laughing. Next time round, we need to tender for a subsidised New York route. Lowest subsidy takes it. A 757 (nearly always well packed) from BFS to EWR has to be a sure thing.
6. Well played to those who are bringing USAF C-130s and C-17s here, and also to the guys bringing bizjets through every day...it puts us on the map, and could lead to bigger things.
7. Get a girlfriend. Girlfriends are better than airports. (But not as good as football). I've upgraded to a wife (which is better than football). But I still like football.
8. I do actually like airports too...fascinating places. Heathrow was class before they modernised it all. Schiphol is brilliant, as is Orlando. Can't really warm to Gatwick though. Manchester is friendly. Calgary was just incredibly quiet. BFS has character...you can see how it has grown over the years. BHD is nice, in a Volkswagen Golf sort of way, but that's ok too.
9. I still don't like Ryanair.
Right, I'm away for my dinner. Talk soon.
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United's problem is J yield is rubbish, we are talking easily circa of 50% difference lots of times.
I agree with NWSRG point about a tender process or just use the money elsewhere, it would go along way to get the rail line between Belfast/Border up to 100 mph and benefit a lot more.
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Onto Ryanair surprised AGP/ALC not daily for 2017....
I agree with NWSRG point about a tender process or just use the money elsewhere, it would go along way to get the rail line between Belfast/Border up to 100 mph and benefit a lot more.
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6. Well played to those who are bringing USAF C-130s and C-17s here, and also to the guys bringing bizjets through every day...it puts us on the map, and could lead to bigger things.
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Anybody know what the third based FR aircraft will be doing?
With LGW doing down to four daily from the winter five then there is a big gap in the flying day.....STN?
With LGW doing down to four daily from the winter five then there is a big gap in the flying day.....STN?
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Did anyone here attend the talk by the MD of Global Trek to the UAS last month? I missed it but it would be interesting to hear how much support they receive from BIA and Stormont; apparently they have to solicit and tender for each individual USAF Wing's business, which must be a tedious and expensive process.
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Missed it too, but real credit to these folks. I'm guessing the profits justify the effort, and it's one of those things where building the relationship hopefully reaps real long term rewards. I think we had 7 C-130s at BFS the other day at one point...and it's good to see C-17s as well. Hopefully it's business that's here to stay now. And the same goes for the bizjets...both our local airports seem to be getting lots of such traffic these days.