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Old 24th Apr 2017, 21:11
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.... id say no.
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 21:12
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No chance. LEVEL will only operate 2 aircraft this year from BCN, with routes benefiting from feeder traffic from about 90 Vueling routes. There's no feeder traffic from BFS. Plus, LEVEL have stated that they'd focus on BCN plus other Vueling bases such as FCO and ORY.
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 21:12
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What about willy Walsh's new low cost airline, is it a possible?
"Level" is a long-haul initiative (based in BCN, leveraging Iberia, feeding from Vueling), operating 330's (an aircraft too big for all but a few routes from BFS) so seems unlikely.
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 21:24
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The only airlines serving Belfast with the Union flag on the livery whatsoever are;

British Airways - tail fin
Virgin Atlantic - below cockpit
Thomas Cook - beside registration
Thomson Airways - beside registration

So unless Keddie meant it was a british airline in general, in which case Jet2, Flybe and Eastern Airways can be added to the mix, it is one of the four airlines above that will operate the island's sole service to this new destination.

Keddie said the Union flag is on the tail, and not specifically the tail fin, so I suppose Thomas Cook and Thomson could be the contenders. The registration (and flag) for both of these airlines is located in the tail area, if you were generalising.
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 21:38
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Don't BA currently have a spare A318? Capable of going TA?

Just wondering...
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 22:02
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Originally Posted by A320.b744
The only airlines serving Belfast with the Union flag on the livery whatsoever are;

British Airways - tail fin
Virgin Atlantic - below cockpit
Thomas Cook - beside registration
Thomson Airways - beside registration

So unless Keddie meant it was a british airline in general, in which case Jet2, Flybe and Eastern Airways can be added to the mix, it is one of the four airlines above that will operate the island's sole service to this new destination.

Keddie said the Union flag is on the tail, and not specifically the tail fin, so I suppose Thomas Cook and Thomson could be the contenders. The registration (and flag) for both of these airlines is located in the tail area, if you were generalising.
Do you not think the clue is the route in question is not going to be operated by FR??
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 22:04
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Haha NWSRG!!

BA's 318 has 32 seats - business class product, high ticket prices, lack of which meant an end to service for UA ex BFS ... so no!
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 22:09
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Originally Posted by mart901
Do you not think the clue is the route in question is not going to be operated by FR??
The fact it's not going to be operated by Ryanair doesn't give us any clues as to who actually is going to serve the route, and where the destination is.

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Don't BA currently have a spare A318? Capable of going TA?

Just wondering...
British Airways mainline are essentially London Airways. There's no chance that they'd fly transatlantic out of Belfast, even if their A318 was reconfigured to include economy class. Plus, the airline with the union flag is operating a route not served from Dublin. I can't think of an East Coast transatlantic service that isn't served from Dublin, but would still have the demand for a BFS service.
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 22:10
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I didn't pick up on the bit about the only service from the island until now. Is virgin in peak summer to a caribbean destination or Las Vegas not an obvious one?
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 22:19
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I considered Virgin and Las Vegas, but Virgin scrapped their GLA-LAS route a couple of years ago and seem to be focussing on Gatwick and to a lesser extent Manchester. Still, stranger things have happened. Plus, if Keddie meant the union flag on the tail thing literally, that's not the case for Virgin as the flag is below to cockpit.
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 22:39
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It can really only be 2
Bmi regional doing German routes in conjunction with LH
Or
BA cityflyer opening up to fly city routes such as Madrid, Frankfurt, Lisbon as examples....
Like i said though if it is Cityflyer you can put money on it BA would move up also from BHD, say what you will but IAG are hitting finances hard and I can't see them paying for 2 contracts with 2 airports and all the ticket desk costs with 2 airports 30 mins from each other.
I'm just saying if it is BA expect it to happen
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 22:43
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Originally Posted by BHD2BFS
It can really only be 2
Bmi regional doing German routes in conjunction with LH
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BA cityflyer opening up to fly city routes such as Madrid, Frankfurt, Lisbon as examples....
Like i said though if it is Cityflyer you can put money on it BA would move up also from BHD, say what you will but IAG are hitting finances hard and I can't see them paying for 2 contracts with 2 airports and all the ticket desk costs with 2 airports 30 mins from each other.
I'm just saying if it is BA expect it to happen
None of the new routes are to Germany, and the destination isn't served from Dublin meaning it isn't going to be to Madrid, Frankfurt etc.

Florence could be the city if BA Cityflyer is the airline: it's not served from the island of Ireland and BA Cityflyer already fly to the city from Birmingham, Bristol, Stansted and London City. Plus Jet2 recently cancelled their Pisa route (despite an increase in passenger numbers), which is frequently used as an alternative to Florence because Florence has a short runway.
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 22:46
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Probably Thomas Cook.
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Old 25th Apr 2017, 01:08
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GK quoted as saying in the article below that he hopes to have a further announcement in a couple of weeks.

http://www.irishnews.com/business/2017/04/25/news/six-new-international-flight-routes-for-belfast-1006001/
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Old 25th Apr 2017, 05:23
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TCX have announced BFS to Kos for 2018. Any airline fly this route from Dublin?
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Old 25th Apr 2017, 05:31
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Originally Posted by GAZMO
TCX have announced BFS to Kos for 2018. Any airline fly this route from Dublin?
Kos was announced several weeks ago and is served by Thomson from Dublin.
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Old 25th Apr 2017, 06:34
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http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/272544/thomas-cook-uk-schedules-belfast-cancun-in-junejuly-2017/ There is your union flag carrier
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Old 25th Apr 2017, 06:40
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Originally Posted by cessnarocket
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/272544/thomas-cook-uk-schedules-belfast-cancun-in-junejuly-2017/ There is your union flag carrier
This was announced in April 2016 and operates Jun-Jul 2017. The Routes article also mentions that they forgot to mention it last year, which is why they're writing about it now. The topic probably came up at the Routes event this week.
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Old 25th Apr 2017, 07:22
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Speaking to FlightGlobal at the Routes Europe conference in Belfast today, Keddie says that six of the eight routes are to unserved markets and that “one of them is a route which will be the only one operated from this island” in reference to both Northern Ireland and Ireland.
Keddie does not disclose the identity of the airline, but tells FlightGlobal that it is an existing carrier operating into Belfast and has a “Union Jack on the tail”.

The new routes will be disclosed on 26 April and will be operated from summer 2018, Keddie says.


The journalist may have muddled their facts.
Based on all the rumours floating around.
What about 8 new routes, six by an existing carrier at BFS with one unique route not yet served from Ireland (LS), two new routes to Rome (FR) and LHR (BA). With the LS routes being announced tomorrow, and the others at a later date.


Do LS fly currently to any destinations not yet available from the island of Ireland from their other bases?

It would be a no brainer for BA to move to BFS. Much more flexibility with aircraft and flight timings, why wouldn't they?

Either Graham was jesting or serious about union flag on tail. However that reference can only be BA IMO.

This routes 'party' is show casing NI at a fair cost, if the LS routes are the main gain then a bit of a disappointment as these routes probably would have been announced anyway. Reports are suggesting 5 sun routes and one city destination!
So out of the 6 routes to be announced tomorrow if only one is a city destination then not a rush of inbound traffic for local tourism!
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Old 25th Apr 2017, 07:53
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Do LS fly currently to any destinations not yet available from the island of Ireland from their other bases?
Bergerac
Paphos
Kefalonia
Thessalonika
Zante
Antalya
Bodrum

As you can see, the Greek/Turkish market isn't terribly well developed from Ireland, presumably because of the extra flying time.
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