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and moves by Ryanair to become more customer and family friendly
How many flights did Jet2 cancel - 0
It's when things go awry that Ryanair fall over and leave their passengers in the lurch year in and year out.
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Actually Johnny F@rt Pants I think you'll find that Jet2 did in fact cancel 2x flights from Leeds/Bradford to Amsterdam and Dusseldorf on Wednesday evening. But I do agree with you it was not as many flight cancellations compared to either Ryanair or Easyjet, who lets not forget have much larger fleets..
But I do agree with you it was not as many flight cancellations compared to either Ryanair or Easyjet, who lets not forget have much larger fleets
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Recent ATC cancellations
Yes fleet size is a major factor but also fleet usage and Jet2 have a big advantage there, it is very rare to hear a Channex call sign late at night meanwhile Easy/Ryanair & Norwegian are still flying around at un godly hours, so a delay of a few few hours does not have a knock on to hundred of other passengers on later flights.
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How long before the new competition and market authority clampdown on jet2 adding check in charges to passenger fares excluding them from the headline fare. Checking in for a flight isn't optional. By all means charge a supplement for airport check in but my understanding is this is simply an irritating factor consumers despise
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Jet2 have quite a backlog of 3 hour plus delay claims waiting to be paid to passengers, pending their appeal against their High Court of Appeal defeat in the Supreme Court.
I wonder if any reserve appears in the recent accounts to allow for such payments being made? That could account for a profit reduction, if it has. However, for such an amount not to be put aside, would be pure folly.
I wonder if any reserve appears in the recent accounts to allow for such payments being made? That could account for a profit reduction, if it has. However, for such an amount not to be put aside, would be pure folly.
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I travelled from Leeds to Paris and back two weeks ago. Provided you check in on line and allow the system to give you a seat, there is no check in charge. So it isn't compulsory.
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Provided you check in on line and allow the system to give you a seat, there is no check in charge. So it isn't compulsory.
They still do this with airport check-in. For example on EMA - DLM in August it charges £49 return for the bag but increases the airport check-in fee by £6 for every bag so strictly speaking it actually costs £55 per bag (and I have seen even more severe cases than that).
I never considered flying with them because of this but at least you can now avoid it by checking in on-line. Glad it has somewhat changed.
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Regarding the amount of flights cancelled.
Ryanair have about 300 aircraft and cancelled somewhere in the region of 400 plus flights.
Jet2 have a fleet of about 60 aircraft and cancelled 2 flights. Somehow I think it is a better ratio in favour of Jet2.
But Ryanair will stand there saying look at our on time performance. I firmly believe that cancellations should be recorded in official OTP figures.
As for late night flights, of 5 arrivals into Manchester at 2 am (ish) this morning 3 were Jet2.
Ryanair have about 300 aircraft and cancelled somewhere in the region of 400 plus flights.
Jet2 have a fleet of about 60 aircraft and cancelled 2 flights. Somehow I think it is a better ratio in favour of Jet2.
But Ryanair will stand there saying look at our on time performance. I firmly believe that cancellations should be recorded in official OTP figures.
As for late night flights, of 5 arrivals into Manchester at 2 am (ish) this morning 3 were Jet2.
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Jet2 Cancellations
SWBKCB
Regarding the amount of flights
cancelled.
Ryanair have about 300 aircraft and cancelled somewhere in the
region of 400 plus flights.
Jet2 have a fleet of about 60 aircraft and
cancelled 2 flights. Somehow I think it is a better ratio in favour of Jet2.
But Ryanair will stand there saying look at our on time performance. I
firmly believe that cancellations should be recorded in official OTP figures.
As for late night flights, of 5 arrivals into Manchester at 2 am (ish) this
morning 3 were Jet2.
Many of Jet2's passengers are on inclusive tours so not so easy to cancel flights. The 2 flights they cancelled were city flights from LBA
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Flybar
You're missing my point.
And that is Jet2 do everything they can to get the customer there. Whether that be a Jet2.com or a Jet2Holidays.com customer.
Ryanair just cancel and not through some altruistic gesture of protecting the passengers. It is to protect them and their on time performance figures.
And that is Jet2 do everything they can to get the customer there. Whether that be a Jet2.com or a Jet2Holidays.com customer.
Ryanair just cancel and not through some altruistic gesture of protecting the passengers. It is to protect them and their on time performance figures.
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The difference is that FR operate very tight schedules and can easily have at least 3, 4 or even 5 return flights per day compared to LS which is usually only 2. Effectively, FR would end up with a huge backlog of indefinite delays if it were not to cancel the disrupted flights.
It is much more manageable for LS however to operate the disrupted flights without causing any severe problems to the rest of its network.
So in my mind it's a no brainer for FR to cancel all the effected flights and promptly inform the relevant passengers whilst keeping everyone else whose flight isn't affected happy. The alternative would be constant delaying and delaying of every single flight across its network and for FR of all airlines would cause absolute havoc for everyone involved.
Neither case is right or wrong as such, it's simply just a difference in the operation between the two airlines.
The difference is that FR operate very tight schedules and can easily have at least 3, 4 or even 5 return flights per day compared to LS which is usually only 2. Effectively, FR would end up with a huge backlog of indefinite delays if it were not to cancel the disrupted flights.
It is much more manageable for LS however to operate the disrupted flights without causing any severe problems to the rest of its network.
So in my mind it's a no brainer for FR to cancel all the effected flights and promptly inform the relevant passengers whilst keeping everyone else whose flight isn't affected happy. The alternative would be constant delaying and delaying of every single flight across its network and for FR of all airlines would cause absolute havoc for everyone involved.
Neither case is right or wrong as such, it's simply just a difference in the operation between the two airlines.
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I believe FR and EZY were instructed to cancel flights into France on the strike days by the French authorities. I believe this was around 15% each day. Further cancellations were announced later in day as more flights became disrupted.
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Easyjet cancelled 150 flights
BA cancelled over 50 flights
DGAC ordered/requested/pleaded FR to cancel around 20% of flights to/from French airports, with its aircraft based all over France. This particular LS/FR comparison is just silly.
BA cancelled over 50 flights
DGAC ordered/requested/pleaded FR to cancel around 20% of flights to/from French airports, with its aircraft based all over France. This particular LS/FR comparison is just silly.
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FRatSTN
What makes your schedules any more precious than any other airline.
Jet2 aircraft do not just do 2 rotations a day.
Keep believing your own excuses.
777X
FR wish to compare their on time performance to all other airlines. So why is a comparison of cancellations silly.
Jet2 aircraft do not just do 2 rotations a day.
Keep believing your own excuses.
777X
FR wish to compare their on time performance to all other airlines. So why is a comparison of cancellations silly.
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I'm not too sure you've really followed but I don't want to get into a big debate about this because that would be silly. So lets just agree to leave it at that hey?
I'm not too sure you've really followed but I don't want to get into a big debate about this because that would be silly. So lets just agree to leave it at that hey?
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FRatSTN
I have followed you, and I fully understand how airline schedules work, the fact that I profoundly disagree with you is the difference.
I am proud that Jet2 operated most of their flights. FR did cancel lots of their flights in France on request of the authorities. But you also had mass cancellations out of many other airports.
You could quite easily have operated flights to non French airports and took the hit on the CTOT but no, they were cancelled.
Quite happy to agree to disagree.
OTP is all lies, damn lies and statistics.
I am proud that Jet2 operated most of their flights. FR did cancel lots of their flights in France on request of the authorities. But you also had mass cancellations out of many other airports.
You could quite easily have operated flights to non French airports and took the hit on the CTOT but no, they were cancelled.
Quite happy to agree to disagree.
OTP is all lies, damn lies and statistics.