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Old 2nd Jun 2016, 13:38
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From the ad above the text, i see the recruiting team are off on their hols again to HKG this time. I wonder if the Tiger will taste the same!
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Old 2nd Jun 2016, 14:59
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Rather strange that Jet2 has decided against adding either of these new destinations from Glasgow. Are there any plans to further expand Glasgow's route offering by Jet2?
There are 6 based aircraft at Glasgow at present and seems the same for 2017 Summer. Judging from the present summer 2017 pogramme of flights, all the 6 based aircraft are required during 6 days of the week during high season and only on Tuesdays do they only require 5 aircraft. So technically on Tuesdays it could be possible to programme two more destinations but aircraft require maintaneance. So it could be that the Tuesday spare capacity has been built in deliberately in order to allow for any extensive maintenance that may be required on any of the based aircraft at any given moment.

Are there any plans to further expand Glasgow's route offering by Jet2?
There has been healthy expansion at Glasgow for Summer 2017 and even more so for Winter 2016/2017. Any further big expansion of the flight programme for Glasgow for Summer 2017 would necessarily entail increasing the based aircraft there to 7 from the present 6. Bearing in mind of course that there are 5 JET2 aircraft there at the moment plus a B738 from Air Europa on lease for Summer 2017 to make up the total of 6. It is doubtful that there would be a clear cut business opportunity, at this stage, to increase the 2017 Summer flying programme to keep 7 aircraft busy. On the other hand, if leasing aircraft for the 2017 summer high season is economical, then it could happen if the numbers add up to give a profit.
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Old 2nd Jun 2016, 15:05
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Originally Posted by Callum Paterson View Post
Rather strange that Jet2 has decided against adding either of these new destinations from Glasgow. Are there any plans to further expand Glasgow's route offering by Jet2?
They can also serve the West of Scotland market quite easily from EDI where they obviously had some aircraft free for these extra services.

Jet2's expansion at EDI recently has been remarkable.
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Old 3rd Jun 2016, 05:38
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Originally Posted by DjerbaDevil View Post
There are 6 based aircraft at Glasgow at present and seems the same for 2017 Summer. Judging from the present summer 2017 pogramme of flights, all the 6 based aircraft are required during 6 days of the week during high season and only on Tuesdays do they only require 5 aircraft.
Thanks for your detailed reply, DjerbaDevil.

With 6 based Boeing 737-800s including the Air Europa aircraft I believe this makes Glasgow one of Jet2's largest bases in terms on aircraft and overall capacity. However when looking at the number of destinations served, with 29 Glasgow has the second smallest route network. Only Belfast has less.

This could suggest that the routes on offer from Glasgow operate on a frequency higher than that of the average Jet2 route?

Even with daily flights and in some cases more which do offer good flexibility to passengers I'd personally like to see more destinations offered. With such a small route network from Glasgow in comparison to other Jet2 bases it does appear there are plenty of non-served destinations for Jet2 to grow to from its Glasgow base with the aforementioned Thessaloniki and Almeria being two.


Originally Posted by A350Saltire
There are 6 based aircraft at Glasgow at present and seems the same for 2017 Summer. Judging from the present summer 2017 pogramme of flights, all the 6 based aircraft are required during 6 days of the week during high season and only on Tuesdays do they only require 5 aircraft.
I have to disagree with you. While some passengers in Glasgow and the West may accept using EDI, they will be the absolute bargain hunters and thus generating very little yield for the airline. A similar demographic to the passengers from across Scotland who travel to Manchester to save a tenner.

For the vast majority including myself its a case of fly direct from Glasgow or take a connection via a hub. I fly more times in a year than I care to count and not once have I ever looked at flying from Edinburgh. Nothing against the airport or the city. But with a perfectly good airport on my doorstop serving all destinations, direct or by one-stop, I'm going to use it.
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Old 3rd Jun 2016, 10:25
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I dont think that is true - for the flights Jet2 offer, why would anyone fly via a hub? They want direct flights and where they are not available from GLA, the convenience of EDI to West of Scotland passengers helps this (it is on the right side of the city for one). I'd imagine there are also some passengers that would use GLA over EDI for a direct flight but in general GLA is harder to get to if you don't travel by car and is on the wrong side of the city to make it simple for East of Scotland pax.

Its your choice that you wont use EDI out of principle and its admirable that you support your local airport by always flying from there but i would suggest that the majority will actually seek out a direct flight wherever possible (certainly to any of Jet2's destinations) rather than have to connect in London for example.

This is of course different for long-haul flights where a connection is more acceptable.
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Old 3rd Jun 2016, 10:42
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I've never agreed with the argument that EDI is somehow on the 'right side of the city.' North, south, east or west it's still on the otherside of the country from the Scotland's biggest city and GLA is after all at the heart of Scotland's largest population centre.

With regards to your other comments, I have friends travelling to Malta in a few days time. They are travelling from Glasgow via Amsterdam. This is why hub routes exist. People are willing to pay more to fly from an airport on their doorstep even if it involves a stop.

Glasgow has two of its own airports and for the few who are willing to travel hours more to save a tenner, there are regular trains to Manchester which I'd estimate takes more passengers from Glasgow than what EDI does.

Like I said above, I see potential for Jet2 to add an additional aircraft to Glasgow and a number of possible routes they could deploy such an aircraft on. Here's hoping there is more to come from Jet2 at Glasgow for S17.
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Old 4th Jun 2016, 10:50
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Originally Posted by Callum Paterson View Post

Glasgow has two of its own airports and for the few who are willing to travel hours more to save a tenner, there are regular trains to Manchester which I'd estimate takes more passengers from Glasgow than what EDI does.
I can't see Manchester taking more passengers from Glasgow than EDI - that is simply wishful thinking. I wish there were official up to date figures on this available somewhere which will prove my point.

I certainly wouldn't have a problem travelling through to GLA to use get a direct flight if I was travelling to anywhere in Europe if one wasn't available at EDI. I have done this a few times before and it will be absolutely the same in reverse. Thankfully there are not many destinations in Europe left that EDI doesn't have covered.

When travelling long haul though, the connections are inevitable.
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Old 27th Jun 2016, 16:41
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Apparently another Titan aircraft will be based at MAN for summer 2016, anyone with any more info, hearing it will be a A320
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Old 27th Jun 2016, 18:39
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There was a second Titan A320 at Manchester this afternoon but it was parked at T2 which suggests it wasn't subbing for Jet2. There was also one of their 757 at T2; a bit odd as I think it was subbing for Vueling, who use T3 (I think).
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Old 27th Jun 2016, 19:58
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The a320 - GPOWK - will indeed be operating for jet2. Not all of summer but set routes for the next few weeks. I'm unsure the reason why.
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Old 27th Jun 2016, 23:58
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GPOWK A320 is based at MAN for the next month starting tomorrow morning.
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Old 29th Jun 2016, 11:26
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Jet2 expands winter schedule from Edinburgh Airport - Daily Record

LS have doubled this winter's seat offering from EDI. W16/17 will see them add Fuerteventura and Turin from the capital.

This likely to be the start of many winter frequency increases over the next few years, certainly W17 onwards as the new a/c start entering service
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Old 30th Jun 2016, 12:41
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Jet2 738:

Whatever happened to your thread in the Spectators’ Forum? It seems to have been deleted.

W16/17 has seen huge increases across the board at all the JET2 bases and is an obvious push for a better utilisation of aircraft. All this winter flight planning was instigated well before the order for the new B738s from Boeing had taken place, so that it was probably prompted by the fact that JET2 found that it could only match their requirements for B738 aircraft by leasing them. At the moment they have 10 B738s on dry leases. Doubtless, now they have the firm order of the new B738s, JET2 may well start returning the leased B738s to the lessors or negotiating with them a purchase price. It would make sense to resolve the leased B738s' issue before retiring their owned B733 fleet.

Tour Operators and specialist Tour Operators have been producing winter holiday programmes since the 60s, so most destinations and progammes have already been invented and tried. The JET2 winter programmes would need to be constructed gradually but won’t require too much imagination. Even with the restrictions of travel to certain destinations, there is still scope to include other destinations and increase the present winter programmes substantially with the only restriction being the money and value of the money at the disposal of the customers.
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Old 1st Jul 2016, 08:37
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Djerba,
I have no idea why the link for said forum no longer appears on the Spectators Balcony, though you can still find it at http://www.pprune.org/spectators-bal...98-jet2-7.html

Indeed, a push for the better utilisation of aircraft has driven the move as you say. My comment regarding the new ones was aimed at the fact that with Jet2 owning the majority of their fleet (of course excluding the 10 738s on lease) they are able to park them up for most of the winter, without significant costs (in leasing). I think this could see Jet2s very seasonal operation begin to diversify, offering more Canarian/B&S roots and ski breaks during the quiet winter months.
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Old 3rd Jul 2016, 09:00
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Jet2_738:
Thank you.
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Old 3rd Jul 2016, 09:01
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When having passed the selection, can you choose a base or will Jet2 choose for you?
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Old 7th Jul 2016, 10:22
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New base at BHX announced... 4 x 738 apparently
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Old 7th Jul 2016, 15:15
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Quite right LA. I believe Jet2 thought about setting up at Birmingham but decided Leeds was a better move and what a success it has been too and giving them the cash and momentum to spread across several bases in the UK and now Birmingham. Where next?
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Old 7th Jul 2016, 17:42
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Indeed, quite the jump for the airline. The new base will operate with 4x738s, all of which (at least initially) to be from the new batch. Here's a weekly breakdown (sectors based on July);

Order of Starting Date:

30MAR17
AGP Malaga - x6 (Mon/Tu/Th/Fri/Sat/Sun)
FAO Faro - x7 (daily)

31MAR17
ALC Alicante - x7 (daily)
PMI Palma Mallorca - x7 (daily)
TFS Tenerife - x4 (Mon/Wed/Fri/Sat)

01APR17
ACE Lanzarote - x3 (Tu/Fri/Sat)
LPA Gran Canaria - x2 (Tue/Sat)

02APR17
FUE Fuerteventura - x2 (Thu/Sun)
PFO Paphos - x2 (Wed/Sun)

27APR17
IBZ Ibiza - x6 (Mon/Tu/Wed/Th/Fri/Sun)
RHO Rhodes - x2 (Mon/Thu)

28APR17
GRO Girona - x2 (Mon/Fri)

29APR17
MAH Mahon - x2 (Tue/Sat)
REU Reus x3 (Tue/Thu/Sat)

30APR17
HER Heraklion - x2 (Wed/Sun)

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Old 14th Jul 2016, 12:50
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See Jet2's owners Dart Group PLc has reported that it more than doubled pre-tax profits to £104.2m in the past 12 months. In the year to 31 March 2016 the company increased pre-tax profits by 159% from £40.2m last year whilst revenues also took off, rising 12% to £1.4bn.

Profits soar at Jet2 | TheBusinessDesk.com
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