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Old 24th Mar 2016, 11:42
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Wonder if Jet2 might now be forced into either axing or improving its schedules to better suite business passenger needs on it's marginal year round operated city routes from LBA to AMS, CDG and DUS now it has some serious competition down road at DSA on all 3 routes by flybe?

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Old 24th Mar 2016, 11:43
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Originally Posted by Jet2_738 View Post
The replacement of the 757 will always be a tricky one. Despite its age, nothing we have yet outperforms in terms of range in its class. Inevitably, when they do retire, the question is, will Jet2 even seek for a replacement for it? From what I can see, 30 -800 orders suggests that the future plan is to start standardising (and modernising) the fleet, which of course can reduce costs. The 737-800 suits the vast majority of Jet2's ops, albeit excluding the winter breaks to New York - which are just ad-hoc and not solid destinations.

However, should a decision come to replacing the 757s with something other than the 738, The viable options I see are go smaller; 739 or the a321, or go bigger; the 767.

The argument for the 767 is that they're still in production, share a common TR with the 757, have a vast network of spares, and are able to cover the ad-hocs like EWR in the winter, whilst during the summer, could easily serve full-load factors of bucket and spades to the likes of PMI, ALC or TFS. Should they decide to expand this way, I'd imagine an order of around 2-4, to make up a small sub fleet on the side (most likely based out of MAN).

When it comes down to the 739 vs the a321, in terms of performance they are very similar. Take a look here: http://planes.axlegeeks.com/compare/231-270/Airbus-A321-vs-Boeing-737-900ER

Now we all know LS negotiated significant discounts off the list prices for their NG order. The fact the 739, at list price is $28,700,000 cheaper than the airbus, suggests to me that the 739 is more likely, and given the substantial order with Boeing already, the company is a lot more likely to obtain significant discounts off the list price, than it would be with Airbus. Going this way would also maintain fleet commonality, which is of course very important in terms of keeping costs low.

Personally, I think that they'll just expand, standardising the fleet with the -800. I am certainly not ruling out the possibility of the a321, but think rather that the 739 is more likely. The 767, not so likely, but I think it would be a perfect fit into the LS ops, opening the possibility of more far flung Jet2holidays destinations in the future.
Several good points here. I agree standardisation on the 738 is the most likely route. The 767 however would work as a 757 replacement as you point out. There are plenty out there and if they can pick up some decent second hand ones now the 787 is replacing them in numbers it could be a good cheap option. They could still do the Winter New York and maybe use them to Florida and other high density long haul holiday destinations if they decide to take the risk.Of course the A321NEOLR would work too but far too expensive and a long lead time makes thus a non starter IMO.
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Old 24th Mar 2016, 20:16
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Originally Posted by 111KAB View Post
Don't frequent the Jet2 thread that often so apologies if Mallorca news (from our local paper) is not news!


I have been saying for years that the idle fleet in the Winter should be used on foreign routes serving countries where holidays are traditionally taken in the Winter. Would like to see something similar announced into the Canaries stations by W17 (if not for W16).
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Old 25th Mar 2016, 03:35
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The winter should be kept at 2 flights per month. Anything else is crazy talk and should attract overtime Payments.
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Old 25th Mar 2016, 23:13
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Why not 737(7)-738-739 and 767? Common short/medium haul backbone to cover everything from lower end like NCL-KRK, LBA-DUS etc. with the -700's, top end UK-Balearics, Canaries, Spain with the -900's and everything else inbetween and alongside with the -800's.

The 767's could cover everything from summer PMI/ALC/TFS shuttles, EWR charters and long haul jet2holidays
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Old 26th Mar 2016, 10:56
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Does anyone know what metal is penciled in for the april 18th LS251 LBA-FAO?

And apoligies to any other passenger onboard that day, Im 1/24th of a stag do.
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Old 26th Mar 2016, 16:00
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At present it looks like a B737-300.
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Old 26th Mar 2016, 18:43
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And apoligies to any other passenger onboard that day, Im 1/24th of a stag do.
or you and your mates could just not act like prats, then there would be no need to apologize?
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Old 26th Mar 2016, 19:26
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If he behaves then he will not have to apologise.

Do not behave and you will get no appologie if you are refused travel.
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Old 26th Mar 2016, 21:06
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why have ncl/tfs and lpa stopped at FAO. fuel stop or what
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Old 26th Mar 2016, 21:36
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Probably, jet stream is very strong from the south today.
Jetstream Forecast - Jetstream Map Updated Four Times Daily - Netweather.tv

Got to feel for the crew, will be back at stupid o'clock in the morning. A rude welcome to the start of the second wave season.
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Old 26th Mar 2016, 21:41
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Plus unfavourable winds at NCL, damp runway and full loads.
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Old 26th Mar 2016, 21:48
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Well if you insist on flying a light twin with no performance!

Hope the weather is nicer when they get home after a very long night.
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Old 26th Mar 2016, 21:56
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doesn't seem to bother other airlines or were they using 737-300 and hoping all would be ok.
anyway even longer night for crew with clocks going forward
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Old 26th Mar 2016, 22:04
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737 800 I belive.

Do not fly those so know nothing about performance other than they do seem to struggle to lift a lot of weight on a wet runway. Fortunately I have the privilege to operate a very over powered aircraft.

I have noticed on a warm day Airbus some times seem to be having trouble, often departing with a light tail wind from places like ACE and Corfu if that allows them to depart over the sea rather than towards rising terrain so it is not only 737 operator's that can have problems.
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Old 26th Mar 2016, 23:07
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EXS518 (B738 G-GDFU) is on its way back to NCL from TFS and is scheduled to land at 03:29H.
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Old 27th Mar 2016, 10:03
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or you and your mates could just not act like prats, then there would be no need to apologize?
its an 8AM flight, I doubt we can manage any more than 7 beers before that so we should be ok.

Only joking, we arent yobs, but 4 days without the mrs's and we get a bit giddy thats all
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Old 2nd Apr 2016, 19:08
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jet2 ls169

does anyone know what plane will be used for the jet2 ls169 man to IBZ flights this year for w/c 4th June? will it be the privilege at this time of year or not?
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Old 3rd Apr 2016, 00:37
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does anyone know what plane will be used for the jet2 ls169 man to IBZ flights this year for w/c 4th June? will it be the privilege at this time of year or not?
Jet2 are not leasing an aircraft from Privilege Style this year, so will most likely be a Jet2 Aircraft, though they are leasing an A321 from Titan Airways at Manchester this summer.
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Old 3rd Apr 2016, 04:20
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Originally Posted by lightflyer92 View Post
does anyone know what plane will be used for the jet2 ls169 man to IBZ flights this year for w/c 4th June? will it be the privilege at this time of year or not?
it depends on what day of that week you choose to travel.
2 of the "company types" are showing operating the LS169 that week.... It could be a 733 or a 752.
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