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Old 1st Mar 2016, 14:33
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Chambery pulled due to the many issues it regularly creates when things don't go to plan down there.
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Old 1st Mar 2016, 20:14
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When it work its fantastic, but slots, bad weather just make it a hassle 50% of the time, i've given up and go by way of Geneva or Grenoble if its a coach connection, you end up waiting for other flights, so what you save in transfer time you lose at the airport. A good decision by Jet2, no doubt Titan will continue with it, but they don't have a flying program to cover when delayed.
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Old 1st Mar 2016, 21:14
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GJZHF - now registered

GJZHF joins the Jet2 fleet!

I see that the first of the 4 B738 joining the fleet was registered on 29/02/16.
Although location is unknown.
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Old 2nd Mar 2016, 08:07
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4 new 738s

It arrived at LBA yesterday still in Transavia colours.EI-RUE is also sat at Multiflight but this one is in full Jet2 grey minus rudder which is still in Transaero colours.
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 16:38
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Do we know if the full page advert in the RAF NEWS in mid January have a good response for Jet2.
I have no idea if the basic of 65k plus bonus a good salary.
Hopefully the 30 new 737's on order will be a plus to offer new pilots, with the added bonus they are for the first 18 at least to replace older aircraft. All should arrive in the next 24 months.
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Old 6th Mar 2016, 08:32
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Originally Posted by LBIA
Looks like LBA, EMA and EDI are all getting replacement flights to Grenoble next winter 2016/17 season, whilst they already serve Grenoble from MAN
No EDI to GNB flight added yet. Does anyone know when flights are expected to be released. EDI-TRN has been added for W17
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Old 6th Mar 2016, 17:07
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Thumbs down

They certainly made a 'Dogs Dinner' of Chambery a few weeks ago! Probably the catalyst for the commercial decision to pull out! Whilst we all made it in eventually, Jet2 diverted to LYS/GNB then went to Clermont Ferrand!!! A delightful 5 hour drive for their customers!!!

I think straight forward Benidorm is more their thing!!!
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Old 6th Mar 2016, 18:22
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Oh my God! A diversion...from must be joking.
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Old 6th Mar 2016, 18:31
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I think straight forward Benidorm is more their thing!!!
With respect Honiley, the only reason for the diversions were due to the weather in Chambery - not anything Jet2, nor ANY other tour operator could have done anything about. For the last few months on their status page, they've advised all customers to be prepared for potential disruption in Chambery, something we all know is inevitable every season.
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Old 7th Mar 2016, 19:15
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There were other diverts that day.
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Old 8th Mar 2016, 07:09
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And the passengers that I spoke to were full of praise for the speed at which Jet2 provided them with hotel accommodation in Clermont Ferrand. Yes, they were frustrated with the delays, but were kept informed through the day. Skiers are used to travel delays and are well aware of the potential delays at Chambery, just check any of the snowsports forums. This season has been bad for diversions for most airlines out of Chambery in comparison with previous years. There was a chance of a hassle free weekend until some twit left a rucksack in the terminal last Saturday and it had to be evacuated. They must be thinking they can't win.

Perhaps they should double the size of the terminal and the apron at Grenoble so Chambery can revert to a pleasant summer VFR airfield!
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Old 9th Mar 2016, 13:16
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For the spotters/Jet2_738:

G-POWH will be in LBA from 19th March! Jet2 seating, 216 config, until late October!
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Old 9th Mar 2016, 15:04
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Originally Posted by JB007 View Post
G-POWH will be in LBA from 19th March! Jet2 seating, 216 config, until late October!
Will you be accompanying it JB007?
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Old 13th Mar 2016, 08:49
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Jet2 PMI

Don't frequent the Jet2 thread that often so apologies if Mallorca news (from our local paper) is not news!

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Old 13th Mar 2016, 09:08
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Well that is news. If accurate it comes as some surprise.
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Old 23rd Mar 2016, 18:01
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Something has just dawned upon me, after seeing this accidental mockup of a Jet2 737 900, Jet2 to lease Titan Airways's first A321 this summer - I wondered, why haven't they ordered any? It would seem like a good fit as a 757 replacement with 733 (glass cockpit) and 738 commonality.
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Old 23rd Mar 2016, 19:13
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Because they aren't retiring the 757 fleet for a good few years??
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Old 24th Mar 2016, 09:49
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Because they aren't retiring the 757 fleet for a good few years??
Whilst the 757 aren't due for retirement, the 739 is not a good seller. It is a compromised design and suffers from poor runway performance and higher risk of tailstrike. The A321 is outselling it by a margin. If they go that route and decide to replace the 757 they would probably be better with a small sub fleet of A321 operationally, despite the additional training/spares comonallity costs. Just my opinion though.
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Old 24th Mar 2016, 10:50
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No idea what the 752 replacement would be when it comes to it, but for the time being it seems that the 738 is the way forward. Makes sense to have the one type I think, perhaps not so good for the lower density city routes but certainly a good fit for the bulk of their business these days.
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Old 24th Mar 2016, 11:15
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The replacement of the 757 will always be a tricky one. Despite its age, nothing we have yet outperforms in terms of range in its class. Inevitably, when they do retire, the question is, will Jet2 even seek for a replacement for it? From what I can see, 30 -800 orders suggests that the future plan is to start standardising (and modernising) the fleet, which of course can reduce costs. The 737-800 suits the vast majority of Jet2's ops, albeit excluding the winter breaks to New York - which are just ad-hoc and not solid destinations.

However, should a decision come to replacing the 757s with something other than the 738, The viable options I see are go smaller; 739 or the a321, or go bigger; the 767.

The argument for the 767 is that they're still in production, share a common TR with the 757, have a vast network of spares, and are able to cover the ad-hocs like EWR in the winter, whilst during the summer, could easily serve full-load factors of bucket and spades to the likes of PMI, ALC or TFS. Should they decide to expand this way, I'd imagine an order of around 2-4, to make up a small sub fleet on the side (most likely based out of MAN).

When it comes down to the 739 vs the a321, in terms of performance they are very similar. Take a look here:

Now we all know LS negotiated significant discounts off the list prices for their NG order. The fact the 739, at list price is $28,700,000 cheaper than the airbus, suggests to me that the 739 is more likely, and given the substantial order with Boeing already, the company is a lot more likely to obtain significant discounts off the list price, than it would be with Airbus. Going this way would also maintain fleet commonality, which is of course very important in terms of keeping costs low.

Personally, I think that they'll just expand, standardising the fleet with the -800. I am certainly not ruling out the possibility of the a321, but think rather that the 739 is more likely. The 767, not so likely, but I think it would be a perfect fit into the LS ops, opening the possibility of more far flung Jet2holidays destinations in the future.
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