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Is this any different from previous years? Flybe have always sold through tickets from various airports in Scotland to destinations in France, which were all routes via SOU.
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They have, but this is the first time I have seen it properly advertised. I think it could be quite a good idea, assuming they manage to at least be reliable. SOU has a good local demand for regional french routes and its geographic location make it well suited to being a 'mini hub'.
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Over the last couple of years the Saturday Austrian flights to Innsbruck on behalf of Inghams have always operated untill the end of season in late March, this years flights didn't start untill January unlike in previous years when it's been either late November or early December.
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Over the last couple of years the Saturday Austrian flights to Innsbruck on behalf of Inghams have always operated untill the end of season in late March, this years flights didn't start untill January unlike in previous years when it's been either late November or early December.
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SOU 2016 Full Year Stats
Summary of passenger numbers & changes on all regular scheduled and charter routes for 2016.
UK
Aberdeen - 27,743 (-6%)
Alderney - 19,964 (-18%)
Belfast City - 118,526 (+8%)
Edinburgh - 199,283 (+2%)
Glasgow - 179,447 (+13%)
Guernsey - 137,211 (-3%)
Jersey - 163,295 (+1%)
Leeds Bradford - 13,796 (-77%) Ouch!
Manchester - 190,774 (+26%)
Newcastle - 118,388 (+7%)
Total UK - 1,168,427
Republic of Ireland
Cork - 16,452 (New)
Dublin - 132,603 (+<1%)
Total ROI - 149,055
France
Avignon - 4,566 (+10%)
Bastia - 2,310 (-55%)
Bergerac - 36,257 (+9%)
Biarritz - 3,868 (New)
Bordeaux - 4,724 (+141%)
Brest - 4,372 (+32%)
Chambery - 9,509 (+44%)
La Rochelle - 16,678 (+17%)
Limoges - 14,183 (-27%)
Lyon - 11,374 (New)
Nantes - 25,297 (+23%)
Paris CDG - 25,389 ('New')
Paris Orly - 64,961 (-7%)
Perpignan - 2,808 (+17%)
Rennes - 19,044 (+5%)
Toulon - 4,527 (New)
Total France - 249,867
Belgium
Antwerp - 181 (-71%)
Netherlands
Amsterdam - 188,355 (+47%)
Germany
Dusseldorf - 29,498 (+642%) Only ran for 2 months of 2015
Hamburg - 2,498 (-33%)
Munich - 27,312 (New)
Total Germany - 59,308
Switzerland
Geneva - 6,073 (-36%)
Austria
Innsbruck - 1,619 (-35%)
Italy
Verona - 7,378 (+14%)
Spain
Alicante - 32,858 (-20%)
Palma - 41,533 (+71%)
Malaga - 23,342 (-45%)
Total Spain - 97,733
Portugal
Faro - 16,002 (-41%)
Total Overall - 1,947,052 (Includes charters/one off flights/diversions etc)
UK
Aberdeen - 27,743 (-6%)
Alderney - 19,964 (-18%)
Belfast City - 118,526 (+8%)
Edinburgh - 199,283 (+2%)
Glasgow - 179,447 (+13%)
Guernsey - 137,211 (-3%)
Jersey - 163,295 (+1%)
Leeds Bradford - 13,796 (-77%) Ouch!
Manchester - 190,774 (+26%)
Newcastle - 118,388 (+7%)
Total UK - 1,168,427
Republic of Ireland
Cork - 16,452 (New)
Dublin - 132,603 (+<1%)
Total ROI - 149,055
France
Avignon - 4,566 (+10%)
Bastia - 2,310 (-55%)
Bergerac - 36,257 (+9%)
Biarritz - 3,868 (New)
Bordeaux - 4,724 (+141%)
Brest - 4,372 (+32%)
Chambery - 9,509 (+44%)
La Rochelle - 16,678 (+17%)
Limoges - 14,183 (-27%)
Lyon - 11,374 (New)
Nantes - 25,297 (+23%)
Paris CDG - 25,389 ('New')
Paris Orly - 64,961 (-7%)
Perpignan - 2,808 (+17%)
Rennes - 19,044 (+5%)
Toulon - 4,527 (New)
Total France - 249,867
Belgium
Antwerp - 181 (-71%)
Netherlands
Amsterdam - 188,355 (+47%)
Germany
Dusseldorf - 29,498 (+642%) Only ran for 2 months of 2015
Hamburg - 2,498 (-33%)
Munich - 27,312 (New)
Total Germany - 59,308
Switzerland
Geneva - 6,073 (-36%)
Austria
Innsbruck - 1,619 (-35%)
Italy
Verona - 7,378 (+14%)
Spain
Alicante - 32,858 (-20%)
Palma - 41,533 (+71%)
Malaga - 23,342 (-45%)
Total Spain - 97,733
Portugal
Faro - 16,002 (-41%)
Total Overall - 1,947,052 (Includes charters/one off flights/diversions etc)
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Adfly: Great post. So close to the elusive 2 million mark! I do hope Volotea expand onto some more sun routes. AF back on the Paris route would also be good (follow KL's lead). BE are axing Orly but not increasing on CDG which is a really strange move.
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The drop in passenger figures for Alicante, Faro and Malaga may well be down to the fact that people were unsure of Flybe's commitment to those routes so booked other airlines as they were released rather late so that must of had a huge affect on bookings.
With Flybe axing Orly that's a large amount of passengers to Paris and only one additional flight being added to CDG.
It would be good to see HOP by Air France pick up the ORLY route as there is obviously the demand.
I wonder if Aer Lingus Regional will enter the SOU-DUB market at some point.
Possible future Volotea routes from SOU without encroaching on Flybe's territory could well be to be to the likes of Florence, Milan (Bergamo), Nice, Toulouse, Turin and Venice (Marco Polo).
With Flybe returning six Embraer 195s back to their lessors at the end of 2017 what becomes of their sun routes from Southampton, this is where Volotea should seriously think about some sort of expansion for summer 2018 as the market could be all theirs.
With Flybe axing Orly that's a large amount of passengers to Paris and only one additional flight being added to CDG.
It would be good to see HOP by Air France pick up the ORLY route as there is obviously the demand.
I wonder if Aer Lingus Regional will enter the SOU-DUB market at some point.
Possible future Volotea routes from SOU without encroaching on Flybe's territory could well be to be to the likes of Florence, Milan (Bergamo), Nice, Toulouse, Turin and Venice (Marco Polo).
With Flybe returning six Embraer 195s back to their lessors at the end of 2017 what becomes of their sun routes from Southampton, this is where Volotea should seriously think about some sort of expansion for summer 2018 as the market could be all theirs.
With Flybe returning six Embraer 195s back to their lessors at the end of 2017
Agree with what you say re. why numbers dropped on AGP, FAO and ALC. Quite a lot of the ALC flights were on the Dash, which may have also been a factor.
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I have recently read that it was six EMB195s that were being returned to their lessors but had previously read it was just three, they are being returned to their lessors so it will be upto them as to where they finally end up, the rumours that they will go to Stobart are that just rumours especially from the Southend forum as I said they could end up anywhere once their leases are up with Flybe.
I wouldn't put Flybe and committed in one sentence and 'Project Blackbird' at the end if the day means sod all to Flybe, they just started the 'project' with the aim of getting subsidised operations at those airports you mentioned.
I wouldn't put Flybe and committed in one sentence and 'Project Blackbird' at the end if the day means sod all to Flybe, they just started the 'project' with the aim of getting subsidised operations at those airports you mentioned.
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With Volotea increasing capacity with a319s,would there be the pax to sustain the suggested routes?
Also has Southampton plateaued out with the restricted runway available to accommodate economic larger planes?
With Volotea increasing capacity with a319s,would there be the pax to sustain the suggested routes?
Also has Southampton plateaued out with the restricted runway available to accommodate economic larger planes?
they just started the 'project' with the aim of getting subsidised operations at those airports you mentioned.
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One of the two DSA based E195s changed to a E175....so I guess in theory both could go to the smaller jet. Likewise at CWL and NQY maybe those routes could change to the E175 with a slightly increased schedule to accommodate the drop in seat capacity.
If the Dash has been used numerous times on the SOU sun routes I guess that could become a more permanent solution rather than losing sun routes altogether from the Flybe network. What were the loads like on them? The dash doesn't bother me but did many people get turned off by it and not use the Flybe service?
If the Dash has been used numerous times on the SOU sun routes I guess that could become a more permanent solution rather than losing sun routes altogether from the Flybe network. What were the loads like on them? The dash doesn't bother me but did many people get turned off by it and not use the Flybe service?
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I ask the question who would choose a Flybe dash to Palma,when you can fly Volotea a319 at a reduced price?
If Flybe continue to use the Dash on the sun routes from Southampton I'm sure the pax figures will decline.
I ask the question who would choose a Flybe dash to Palma,when you can fly Volotea a319 at a reduced price?
If Flybe continue to use the Dash on the sun routes from Southampton I'm sure the pax figures will decline.
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Exactly and that's why it would be a good move by Volotea if they looked into expanding their route network from Southampton, with the possible loss of any Flybe sun routes for 2018 that will obviously create some extra stand availability and the A319 is 'just about' ideal for operations from SOU without too many limitations unless someone in the future 'maybe Flybe' orders the CS100 and decide to fly them out of SOU.
With Volotea having such a large network from it's many European bases the possibility of some of those destinations such as the ones listed in my post 1430 could prove popular from SOU as the airports catchment area is far wider than most assume and a generally wealthy one as well.
I for one wouldn't like to see Flybe closing down any of the sun routes in 2018 and SOU is easily in a position to retain them if another airline came along and was committed to the routes, this would be so beneficial to the airport and then we would possibly see additional routes added and finally reach that 2 Million.
Exactly and that's why it would be a good move by Volotea if they looked into expanding their route network from Southampton, with the possible loss of any Flybe sun routes for 2018 that will obviously create some extra stand availability and the A319 is 'just about' ideal for operations from SOU without too many limitations unless someone in the future 'maybe Flybe' orders the CS100 and decide to fly them out of SOU.
With Volotea having such a large network from it's many European bases the possibility of some of those destinations such as the ones listed in my post 1430 could prove popular from SOU as the airports catchment area is far wider than most assume and a generally wealthy one as well.
I for one wouldn't like to see Flybe closing down any of the sun routes in 2018 and SOU is easily in a position to retain them if another airline came along and was committed to the routes, this would be so beneficial to the airport and then we would possibly see additional routes added and finally reach that 2 Million.
maybe Flybe' orders the CS100 and decide to fly them out of SOU
Can't see it though, as expensive jets almost contributed to their demise a few years back.
Believe they are committed to a few more 175's yet in any case?
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Palma flights
I've just booked a September week trip to Palma on Volotea (£88pp rtn including seat allocation) and as it's a B717 I've had a look at expertflyer.com for late June and this shows
Tue: Volotea A319 and Flybe E195
Wed: Volotea B717
Thu: Flybe E195
Sat: Volotea A319
Sun: Volotea B717 and Flybe Dash 8
Thinking of the B717 vs Dash, a Skyscanner price on late June for a week on Sunday shows Volotea as £57rtn and Flybe £170rtn. Although I am biased, as a B717 fan, in the interests of balance, Tuesday flights show as Volotea £300rtn and Flybe £105rtn.....and TUI on the Volotea flight at £149rtn.
Tue: Volotea A319 and Flybe E195
Wed: Volotea B717
Thu: Flybe E195
Sat: Volotea A319
Sun: Volotea B717 and Flybe Dash 8
Thinking of the B717 vs Dash, a Skyscanner price on late June for a week on Sunday shows Volotea as £57rtn and Flybe £170rtn. Although I am biased, as a B717 fan, in the interests of balance, Tuesday flights show as Volotea £300rtn and Flybe £105rtn.....and TUI on the Volotea flight at £149rtn.