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Old 16th Jan 2017, 15:39
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Eastern are to operate a new route from Rodez in France to Southampton after confirming that the French airport will be a new base, flights will also operate from Rodez to Lyon and Milan MXP.
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Old 16th Jan 2017, 18:46
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Southampton (South London) you mean! To think this was joked about not so long ago...

Good to see a new route though, hopefully they can make a success of it over the summer. Operates twice weekly Mon and Fri 2nd Jun - 20th Aug on a Saab 2000 according to the Eastern website, so should be a good option for long weekend breaks.

Trois nouvelles destinations à partir de l?aéroport de Rodez | Journal de Millau
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Old 16th Jan 2017, 21:22
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Passengers Nov/Dec

Passengers were up 9% in November to and a significant 25% in December leading to a 10% increase in passengers for the whole year, as stated on the previous page.

Route - Nov/Dec

Cork - 34 pax 48%/40 pax 55%
Lyon - 26 pax 33%/34 pax 43%
Paris CDG - 43 pax 55%/53 pax 68%
Munich - 59 pax/77 pax

Source: CAA Stats
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 20:48
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Lot of criticism today on local forum on Southampton inability to land aircraft over the last 48 hours due to fog. With the limited ILS,there have been only a few landings.Its historic that Southampton cannot improve the poor visibility limitations without airside investment.This has not been forthcoming,but with passenger numbers increasing there is growing disquiet with the fare paying public asking the pertinent question "why in 2017,can't aircraft land in bad weather at Southampton".
Can there be any hope in the future of improvements?,if not could this issue become damaging to the airport future?





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Old 24th Jan 2017, 19:44
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RW20: You can say that again! The airport has practically been closed for the last 3 days. To think some people on here say fog is a rare occurrence, it is so frequent at SOU it seems. Plenty of airports are situated on the coast, some even on the side of mountains. I want to make it clear I have absolute no appetite to start the boring debate about the technical details of fog and how it isn't SOU's fault blah blah (even though we had the expertise to put a man on the moon more than 50 years ago!) but the silence from SOU is deafening. Any chance of a statement apologising to all the people who have had their travel plans ruined? Any mention of steps being made to help alleviate the problem or planned investment to aid ops? Nope, just a message saying the airport is closed and will open when it opens. The impression I have is of two old gits in the control tower working to rule and never getting out at first gear, and the grinning goon MD too busy working on the grove in his chair (that he has been inexcusably allowed to sit in for the last decade whilst showing not an ounce of dynamism) whilst we all curse our naivety of trusting tin pot airport over LGW/LHR. Again I want to make it clear I dearly wish SOU to succeed and offer the range of destinations the surrounding region is demanding.

Just checked and 3 flights have just diverted to Bristol after circling for ages. Another one has given up and gone back to the Channel Islands! Just looked out my window and visibility is at least a mile, what gives? Not foggy at all tonight.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 20:14
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It must be unique to Southampton that for third day running that the airport is unable to operate,due to fog and the fact that with limited landing aids this situation could exist to the weather changes.
It's got to be damaging to the airport future that this situation exists.
Given that Bournemouth could have landed most of the flights with its cat 3 ILS ,Southampton survives due to its transport links!.
There must be thousands of passengers disgruntled and questioning the airport viability tonight.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 20:53
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Given that Bournemouth could have landed most of the flights with its cat 3 ILS
RW20 - as has been rehearsed on this thread MANY times, it takes two to tango - CAT3 ILS is of no use if your major customers aren't equipped/crewed to take advantage.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 21:49
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Unless I'm mistaken Flybe diversions landed in cat 2 conditions recently at Bournemouth!
That is 350m RVR or above,Unless I'm mistaken the minima at Southampton is 800 mtrs RVR,which isn't even Cat 1 minima(550 RVR) this due to local restrictions including buildings.Runway approach lighting falls short of cat 1, improvement s here and tree/building removal would improve minima.
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There must be thousands of passengers disgruntled and questioning the airport viability tonight
Including those on the 7 Q400's that I can currently see either holding or diverting away as of 2245 this evening.

Flying from SOU is such a great experience in many ways, but not on days like this.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 22:05
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Since 2200 tonight 3 diversions to Birmingham, 2 to Bristol, and 1 each to Manchester and Cardiff. Bournemouth has not been available to Flybe Dash 8 for the past two days, RVR not good enough.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 22:10
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Wycombe: it's going to be a long way home for those people tonight. Sometimes you have to take things like that on the chin but the fact is that it happens too often at SOU, and not a word is uttered by the management. No doubt the grinning goon went home at 5pm without a care in the world. You have to question how this kind of management is going to play for KLM and BMI. Just the sort of airlines SOU should be enticing, but since they started operating I am not sure a week has gone by without some form of cancellation. I'm sure BE don't care (judging by my experience of their customer service) plus the fact they have a monopoly at SOU (who else are customers going to fly with).

The problem is that we as customers are all ready to spend are money locally (even paying a premium for the privilege) rather than drive up the M3 but the management don't seem to want to provide the product. With the devolution of power to the regions there is going to be an onus to attract business, investment and tourism. However, if the people flying in on KLM or LH codeshares have to wait 3 days before being able to land at the local airport it puts us at a disadvantage before they have even stepped off the plane. I sincerely hope pressure is put on the MD to be put out to pasture and someone new and ambitious takes up the challenge. I doubt the pension fund that owns the airport will want to rock the boat though.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 22:18
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I'm sure BE don't care
That I doubt as this must be costing them a fortune, besides a lot of bad PR. Tomorrow morning's outbound programme will also be wrecked of course.

You do seem to have a vendetta against the MD. I've never met him (so hard to comment) but I know of/work with some big global Corporations where people who hold the title of "MD" are actually relatively powerless (and often have someone else to answer to)....just saying!
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Wycome: Both good points. It would be interesting to know if calls are made by the airlines in respect of the lack of action by SOU (and the lost income they are regularly incurring as a result). Also, what was behind the brief flirtation with a base at BOH. Maybe a wake up call to SOU? If it was then nothing has happened.

In terms of the MD, I probably am jumping to conclusions and you are right he could be powerless. However, when someone has held senior positions for a decade and cannot point to any significant improvement under his helm then I think it is fair to ask questions. Just my view of course.
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Make that 4 days and counting, all flights cancelled unti further notice. You seriously couldn't make it up!
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Rivet Joint, what would you do ? Move the River Itchen?
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I think expectations run too high these days, but may be I am just an old and remember when many major airports had no ILS, at least on their easterly runways. It is also worth remembering that if you do book into LHR you can still be disrupted, friends were recently delayed over night in Munich because LVPs meant LH were obliged to cancel their flight due to flow rate.
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Also London City is CAT1 and has many bad days
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....... like today with many holding and SEN just about full now.
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First arrival at SOU this morning, a BOH diversion! Just watched it land.
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Re:

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Also London City is CAT1 and has many bad days
To put things in perspective LHR had almost 200 flights cancelled on Mon/Tues
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