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Sorry to be sceptical but HOP! seems unlikely given the effect recent events in Paris have had on tourism (nothing drastic, but probably not the best time to add loads of capacity to a route). MUC is basically served by LH through BMI Regional, and I guess there could be a chance they may start SOU-FRA in the future is MUC works for them.
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I'd also be surprised to see Hop arriving on the scene, especially given that AF and Flybe already codeshare on the Orly flights. Then again, KLM and Flybe had a codeshare to AMS (and still seem to according to the arrivals board today), and we're now seeing KLM flying their own services to SOU so you never know.
The only way we'll be seeing Aer Lingus A320s is if they decide to launch a mainline DUB service in competition with Flybe which I believe to be unlikely.
Two 73s in today in connection with the Harmony of the Seas cruise ship, one XL France 738 and a Maleth Aero 733 which visited twice.
What do people think are the chances of seeing Wizz at SOU? Would their aircraft be drastically limited from the runway? It seems to me that there's a fairly large unserved market from the Central South Coast to eastern Europe. Flybe haven't gone there yet, I wonder if Wizz could make an attempt?
The only way we'll be seeing Aer Lingus A320s is if they decide to launch a mainline DUB service in competition with Flybe which I believe to be unlikely.
Two 73s in today in connection with the Harmony of the Seas cruise ship, one XL France 738 and a Maleth Aero 733 which visited twice.
What do people think are the chances of seeing Wizz at SOU? Would their aircraft be drastically limited from the runway? It seems to me that there's a fairly large unserved market from the Central South Coast to eastern Europe. Flybe haven't gone there yet, I wonder if Wizz could make an attempt?
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If you're trying to stimulate business.....Survey Polish community in greater Southampton catchment area......which would be their preferred Polish hub?....LOT might be attracted...especially as they have a varied Embraer 170/175/190 fleet......could be worth a couple of flights a week as a tester.
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There's a very big polish population in and around Southampton, so surely there is possible route ready to be tapped?,Bournemouth have a service starting,but is it runway restrictions or Flybe objections stopping Southampton implication of a service?
Presumably a Southampton-Poland route has to aim at a price conscious crowd, although perhaps not quite so price sensitive as maybe 5 or 10 years ago.
Does an E190 have the economics for such a market compared to a B737 / A320 ? Would a Dash 8 be considered viable and likely profitable for such a long route ? Furthermore, Flybe have had a troubled time over the last few years and only just turning the corner - is Southampton-Eastern Europe a market they want to enter or will management and shareholders want a year of stability first ?
Does an E190 have the economics for such a market compared to a B737 / A320 ? Would a Dash 8 be considered viable and likely profitable for such a long route ? Furthermore, Flybe have had a troubled time over the last few years and only just turning the corner - is Southampton-Eastern Europe a market they want to enter or will management and shareholders want a year of stability first ?
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It might be a branding & awareness issue.
The Polish market is likely to be heavily inbound which means the Flybe brand would be completely unknown in Poland and require a huge amount of advertising to spread the word.
Wizz Air and Ryanair don't have this issue.
The Polish market is likely to be heavily inbound which means the Flybe brand would be completely unknown in Poland and require a huge amount of advertising to spread the word.
Wizz Air and Ryanair don't have this issue.
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If you're trying to stimulate business.....Survey Polish community in greater Southampton catchment area......which would be their preferred Polish hub?....LOT might be attracted...especially as they have a varied Embraer 170/175/190 fleet......could be worth a couple of flights a week as a tester.
Wizz at Luton now has 668 movements a week arriving and departing this summer from Eastern Europe as more and more migrants choose to live in the UK so the demand will continue to increase as the UK growth rate for Wizz is a massive 24%. No doubt many of those migrants and their visiting families will be heading for the south coast so as time goes on the viability of new routes say from Southampton will increase with time.
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Initial load factors?
How are the new services doing in terms of load factor?
KLM AMS
EI ORK
BD MUC
BE LYN
It will be interesting to see how the KLM AMS route develops. I'd imagine that going to 3 or 4 daily easily.
EI should be doing Dublin at least twice daily together with ORK.
KLM AMS
EI ORK
BD MUC
BE LYN
It will be interesting to see how the KLM AMS route develops. I'd imagine that going to 3 or 4 daily easily.
EI should be doing Dublin at least twice daily together with ORK.
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I hope KLM increase to 3 or 4 daily, maybe they will start to vary on what they bring with the EMB's and F70's if they do increase flights. I think Wizzair or LOT should definitely atleast try Southampton, same with Lufthansa, maybe they could introduce more German routes with their EMB's.
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The first week of the KLM seems to have gone fairly well- outbound loads on the first day were roughly 70%, no data for the inbounds. Inbounds through the week were a bit weaker with about 40-50% loads as an average, (no data for outbounds) but from Thursday through to today loads have been above 70% and into the 90s on some flights. As always it's about yield not LF but if the loads are anything to go by then there seems to be some potential there. It'll be interesting to see how the route develops over time.
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We booked on March 1st 3 Amsterdam return fares travelling August for £85 each. Take APD, VAT and the airport taxes away from this, I doubt if they'll be making much of a profit from us. I hadn't planned on travelling, but at this price (during the school holidays) and from my local airport, then why not?
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I think it starts a week tomorrow (03/06). I notice that the Flybe Palma and Alicante routes are currently being operated by the Dash and hope that passengers are sitting comfortably during the flight, not the best experience I would imagine, bad enough to Geneva. Any idea of Volotea bookings to date for PMI as they start this weekend and must be so much more attractive on both price and jet comfort!
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[QUOTE=stewyb;9389. Any idea of Volotea bookings to date for PMI as they start this weekend and must be so much more attractive on both price and jet comfort![/QUOTE]
Am on the first Volotea on Sunday, will report back.
Am on the first Volotea on Sunday, will report back.