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Just a thought and one which I dont think has come up before. Cargo seems to be a very profitable business for Aer Lingus. The belly of an A330 can hold quite a lot. Why was there never a cause for dedicated freighter aircraft with EI?
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For that very reason. Aer Lingus used to operate JFK/SNN/LHR twice weekly 707 freighters (9148/9149). They stopped this when the wide body's came into service, as the freight could easily fit in the holds. Pure freighter a/c are mainly used for out of gauge or perishable goods nowadays.
Just a thought and one which I dont think has come up before. Cargo seems to be a very profitable business for Aer Lingus. The belly of an A330 can hold quite a lot. Why was there never a cause for dedicated freighter aircraft with EI?
I'm told that the length of the runway at Dublin is (was) a limiting factor for cargo on outbound legs, especially on the older 330-300's.
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Also, during the 70s, 80s and early 90s EI operated a number of 737QC aircraft which could be configured as all-freight, al- pax or combi aircraft. They operated as pax or combi during the day and were converted to freighters at night.One operated DUB-LHR-DUB every morning with a schedule that ensured its arrival just as LHR opened. Not to forget the Carvairs (converted DC-4s) which operated as car and horse ferries during the 60s and which were preceded by the Bristol Freighters during the 50s.
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EI used to have regular freighters into Manchester as well, if my ageing memory serves me well I am pretty sure there 2 flights a night some nights and I think the flight numbers ex MAN were EI9213 and EI9217 however stand to be corrected on that.
And for the sake of clarity freighters carry an awful lot more than just out of guage and perishable cargo.
And for the sake of clarity freighters carry an awful lot more than just out of guage and perishable cargo.
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Air Contractors to wet lease B757 to EI for transatlantic flights
Does anybody have more details about this venture ? Are both cockpit AND cabin crew provided by ACL ?
"Aer Lingus’s choice
Aer Lingus have selected Air Contractors as their preferred supplier for the provision of Wet Lease transatlantic services. Discussions, subject to contract, are underway with the intention of concluding arrangements for an initial period of four years. The concept is that Air Contractors will operate two/three 757 ER aircraft from Shannon and Dublin 7 days/week. Destinations are to be confirmed but will include New York and Boston. This development underscores the confidence Aer Lingus have in Air Contractors and our ability to provide cost effective, tailored solutions operating to the highest possible levels of customer service and reliability. The opportunity is testament to the great reputation that Air Contractors have developed with blue chip companies and is recognition of the hard work, commitment and professionalism displayed by the Air Contractors team."
"Aer Lingus’s choice
Aer Lingus have selected Air Contractors as their preferred supplier for the provision of Wet Lease transatlantic services. Discussions, subject to contract, are underway with the intention of concluding arrangements for an initial period of four years. The concept is that Air Contractors will operate two/three 757 ER aircraft from Shannon and Dublin 7 days/week. Destinations are to be confirmed but will include New York and Boston. This development underscores the confidence Aer Lingus have in Air Contractors and our ability to provide cost effective, tailored solutions operating to the highest possible levels of customer service and reliability. The opportunity is testament to the great reputation that Air Contractors have developed with blue chip companies and is recognition of the hard work, commitment and professionalism displayed by the Air Contractors team."
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I think it must be a monthly thing that the return of the west coast flight rears its head. Now with the talk of 75's joining the fleet, the west coast issue comes up again.
So apart from us bunch of aerosexuals, is there an actual demand for a DUB-LAX/SFO flight? Opinion would suggest that there is.
So apart from us bunch of aerosexuals, is there an actual demand for a DUB-LAX/SFO flight? Opinion would suggest that there is.
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So apart from us bunch of aerosexuals, is there an actual demand for a DUB-LAX/SFO flight? Opinion would suggest that there is.
- more US IT companies are located in Ireland and they are demanding a direct service, but allegedly are slow to commit to take up a percentage of business class seats
- AL Regional feeding in pax from the UK
- pressure from the government which in turn is being lobbied for a return to the West Coast
- Unclear if Etihad will provide a feed of connecting pax utilising CBP in order to get to the US.
So lots of eggs up in the air but for what its worth (not much really) the rumours around the crew room are that it is back on for next summer with only the destination to be decided. The airframe is being freed up by the 757 taking on SNN work.
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EIR feed will only apply if a SFO flight was to depart after 11.00 in the morning to get UK feed as most EIR flights arrive back between 9.30-10.00. That will be the problem.
It needs EY to feed it to make it viable although SFO and LAX are in the top 10 connecting cities from DUB in 2012. SFO number 3 and LAX number 4.
In terms of short haul HEL is number 1 but EI seem to only make it work seasonal but DY expected to be year round, lost opportunity for EI? Moscow is number 2 so there is demand for Moscow service, S7 only operate a weekly service in summer and either EI or SU operate and code share would work IMO. Another surprise is Billund at number 3, maybe it would of being a wise move if EI when there over of CPH. There is a market and EI should look at it, 2 million passengers connected via Hubs in UK, Europe, Middle East, US.
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It needs EY to feed it to make it viable although SFO and LAX are in the top 10 connecting cities from DUB in 2012. SFO number 3 and LAX number 4.
In terms of short haul HEL is number 1 but EI seem to only make it work seasonal but DY expected to be year round, lost opportunity for EI? Moscow is number 2 so there is demand for Moscow service, S7 only operate a weekly service in summer and either EI or SU operate and code share would work IMO. Another surprise is Billund at number 3, maybe it would of being a wise move if EI when there over of CPH. There is a market and EI should look at it, 2 million passengers connected via Hubs in UK, Europe, Middle East, US.
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'Fuel is a major factor against returning to the west coast'. That old chestnut.
What countries in Europe DO NOT fly to LAX/SFO?
It seems to me like a rather week link in the chain that its not possible to fly to the US west coast from Ireland.
What countries in Europe DO NOT fly to LAX/SFO?
It seems to me like a rather week link in the chain that its not possible to fly to the US west coast from Ireland.