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Old 18th May 2015, 09:55
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Originally Posted by corkfly View Post
Hi there, just a query on the IAG takeover regarding LHR slots. Could a condition of the sale be that Aer Lingus would have to 'sell' the slots to the Government for a nominal fee, with the government then leasing the slots for use on Irish routes back to IAG (or indeed anyone else interested in operating the route in the future perhaps with a codeshare with BA). By doing this, would it not ensure future connectivity between Ireland and LHR?
Wouldn't be feasible, I'm afraid (leaving aside whether it's commercially realistic). Only airlines are entitled to hold slots.
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Old 21st May 2015, 10:41
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Aer Lingus are going to start serving Liverpool again. However, people expecting props may look elsewhere as this route will be A320-served at a frequency of 16 flights a week.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/business/liverpool-john-lennon-airport-strikes-9300848
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Old 21st May 2015, 12:20
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Also big increases at BHX and MAN with both upto 6 a day some days
Will Ryanair respond and fight back


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Old 21st May 2015, 14:37
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I guess we know what the Little Red A320s will be doing when they come back
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Old 21st May 2015, 16:06
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Good to see ei expanding with the iad route extended to Jan 6 the lpl route is going to go well I'd say fares are from 19.99. The restoration of the a320 at Shannon is also great news
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Old 21st May 2015, 16:52
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Ryanair will fight back. They've announced increases on Liverpool, Birmingham, and Manchester. Can't see them all being sustainable...
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Old 21st May 2015, 16:56
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Fighting for the P2P leisure traffic alone isn't worth fighting for

Nobody is going to self-connect (and pay two legs of baggage fees) for a TATL flight.

Even with the increased frequency the Ryanair timings are usually unusable for P2P business travel.
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Old 21st May 2015, 17:55
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EI will survive on LPL, some may go to EIR but they will be fine. Yet again they have caught Ryanair on the hop who have decreased LPL/EMA in favour of MAN/BHX.

Now they have to dump capacity and cut fares to 9.99.

They have responded with 2 more daily BHX and 1 daily MAN and LPL. You will see them pull back capacity in time like they already did at BHX when it was 6 daily not so long ago!
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Old 21st May 2015, 18:48
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Even with the increased frequency the Ryanair timings are usually unusable for P2P business travel.
Do you have an example of where the Dublin to UK flight times of Aer Lingus are better than those of Ryanair for business travellers?
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Old 21st May 2015, 18:57
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Leeds - Ryanair get you in after 9am, flight back is before 6pm. Airport is nearly half an hour from the city. EI are ~0730 and 1840

Glasgow - flights back are either too early (1525) or too late (2155)

Newcastle - gets you in at about 11am, and home the next day most days,as opposed to 8am and 7pm roughly on EI

Its generally the same story on all dual-served routes. EI sacrifice frame utilisation for better timings, FR sacrifice suitable timings for frame utilisation. Two models, both should work but one has far higher yielding fares.

When FR's capacity dumping ends on MAN/BHX/LPL it'll be status quo again there.
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Old 21st May 2015, 18:58
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From the end of October Aer Lingus will move from Berlin Schönefeld (SXF) to Berlin Tegel (TXL).
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Old 21st May 2015, 19:13
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Leeds - Ryanair get you in after 9am, flight back is before 6pm. Airport is nearly half an hour from the city. EI are ~0730 and 1840
This changes come winter.

Business traveller going from Dublin to Leeds:
Ryanair arrival at 9am, departure at 7:25pm
Aer Lingus arrival at 8:05am, departure at 5:40pm
(No clear winner)

Business traveller going from Leeds to Dublin:
Ryanair arrival at 7:35am, departure at 8:55pm
Aer Lingus arrival at 9:40am, departure at 4pm
(No clear winner)

The smart business traveller will be open to doing each leg with a different airline, and that for all routes. I don't know if that happens a lot though...
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Old 21st May 2015, 19:27
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Charlie Roy,
The Gatwick schedule by Aer Lingus is better for the business traveller with Aer Lingus than FR... That's a further example...

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Old 21st May 2015, 20:18
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I guess we know what the Little Red A320s will be doing when they come back
They won't be flying for EI over the winter, the expanded schedule will more than adequately be covered by current fleet. Possibly leased next summer but not before then.
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Old 24th May 2015, 11:02
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I notice regional have cancelled two out of the last three days on the new DUB-NQY route. Is this down to poor bookings or aircraft issues ?


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Old 24th May 2015, 12:01
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Cancellation today is due to inclement weather below minimum operating criteria. Yesterday's flight was delayed then cancelled as well as Fridays. Weather on Friday was like today's, so that cancellation could be due to weather although not sure about yesterday's.

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EGHQ 241050Z 25011KT 0100 R12/0200 FG VV/// 12/12 Q1022
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Old 24th May 2015, 16:54
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I have taken that LBA-DUB many times and at near 2100 is seriously depressing. The days work is done by 5pm-ish, then have to hang around until that time. By the time you get in, back to car and home you are talking midnight.
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Old 26th May 2015, 12:27
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Sale approval imminent being discussed by Government, the EU have raised no concerns according to reports either.

Should be known today
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Old 26th May 2015, 14:32
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the EU have raised no concerns
No concerns? About BA/EI as a monopoly on LHR-DUB - only this time as a joint operation. How strange...........and what about the UK CMA? Why aren't they up in arms over this prospect?
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Old 26th May 2015, 15:16
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No concerns? About BA/EI as a monopoly on LHR-DUB - only this time as a joint operation. How strange...........and what about the UK CMA? Why aren't they up in arms over this prospect?
The exact same as MAD-LHR, just like DUB there is 4 other London airports available. You may see higher capacity to LHR with wide bodies used instead
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