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Old 13th Mar 2015, 16:08
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Will this translate to more stealing of Shannon aircraft?
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Old 13th Mar 2015, 16:24
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Haha oh dear. They are Aer Lingus' aircraft (well Air Contractor's but you know what I mean). As such they are perfectly entitled to chop and change as they see fit. Is it annoying? Certainly yes for those planning on flying in or out of Shannon. The French are picking up the tab. I'm told everyone effected in either DUB or SNN has been called and offered money to fly a day or 2 earlier or later, or an alternate booking with UA/DL etc, or a refund.

They were told they would have 2 more A330s next week than they actually will. More pax effected in DUB by cancellations than SNN. Less pax overall negatively effected this way. Also with the week that's in it most U.S. tourists want to be fly to Dublin next week for the parade.
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Old 15th Mar 2015, 08:27
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Airport charges deal could end the Aer Lingus saga - Independent.ie

So it would appear Cork & Shannon airports might be the key to the deal?
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Old 15th Mar 2015, 10:39
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Originally Posted by Epsomdog
Airport charges deal could end the Aer Lingus saga - Independent.ie

So it would appear Cork & Shannon airports might be the key to the deal?
That's a fair concern, Im rather surprised he didnt address it at the start.

I know that if I ran Cork or Shannon Airports, id screw Aer Lingus knowing they couldn't do anything about it.
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Old 15th Mar 2015, 12:40
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That's a fair concern, Im rather surprised he didnt address it at the start.

I know that if I ran Cork or Shannon Airports, id screw Aer Lingus knowing they couldn't do anything about it.
Two points:
If charges were raised BA could destroy the LHR service while still operating it by using really bad slot pairs to serve the route

IAG could scrap all T/A ops if SNN were to take advantage and that could potentially include US PHL service!

Airport charges deal could end the Aer Lingus saga - Independent.ie

So it would appear Cork & Shannon airports might be the key to the deal?
Trade Unions supporting the deal will be critical IMO.
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Old 15th Mar 2015, 20:52
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When you consider the Irish Sea crossings you have Irish Ferries and Stena Line both charging the same extortionate prices. Before Ryanair it was the same with air travel on to and off the island so lets not forget that. WW knew the deal with AIG was never going to pass the unions. My only disappointment was that Ryanair never had to show their hand. That would have been interesting.
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Old 15th Mar 2015, 21:51
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Sorry this is an irrelevant question but when does Aer Lingus update their fares? I am booking transatlantic and its a good price but its a fine balance due to the currency exchange. I will be able to book flights for me on Thursday.

Just don't want it to be increasing too much. Its already started increasing by Ł40.
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Old 15th Mar 2015, 22:08
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Sorry this is an irrelevant question but when does Aer Lingus update their fares? I am booking transatlantic and its a good price but its a fine balance due to the currency exchange. I will be able to book flights for me on Thursday.

Just don't want it to be increasing too much. Its already started increasing by Ł40.
Various times and as fare class sell out for routes, they had their big T/A sale and if it's tarted to increase then it will likely continue especially up until September/October. Given the pound is so good with the euro I really can#t see you not getting a good deal.
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Old 15th Mar 2015, 22:33
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Its just that I have a budget and the hotels are super expensive in the US now due to the pathetic exchange rate. I am hoping the price stays the same.
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Old 15th Mar 2015, 23:36
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Unless you are extremely unlucky and a whole bunch of people book on the same flights you want Owen, it shouldn't go up significantly in 4 days. From your previous posts I'm assuming you will get the daytime flight back. I believe this is proving a big hit with U.S. visitors. It's also got about 40% less capacity than the other flights so I'm guessing that's where you're getting pinched? Fingers crossed for you anyway. Let us know how you get on.
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Old 16th Mar 2015, 00:08
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Yes I want to take the dayflight for the experience and jetlag.

Hopefully the price stays the same.
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Old 21st Mar 2015, 09:02
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Surprised to see Branson getting involved.

Virgin concerned over IAG Aer Lingus bid - RTÉ News
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Old 21st Mar 2015, 09:36
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Odd that SRB is worried about connections to Vancouver given it's been dropped. Seems like the usual kneejerk sadly. Not only that, he's closing down his own operation that connects!?!?
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Old 21st Mar 2015, 14:34
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I like Sir Richard, but this article/intervention feels like he's just steering unnecessary trouble.

He complained, perhaps with justification, about BA monopolies for many years, and when gifted the opportunity to do something about his complaint, Little Red, quickly retreated away.

Long term, Aer Lingus needs to join one of the main players to survive, and IAG is perhaps the best place to ensure their survival as a brand.

Would Delta/Virgin benefit in the long term on trans atlantic routes from a vulnerable Aer Lingus.

Who would Delta/Virgin wish to compete with. An independent Aer Lingus or an IAG Aer Lingus.
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Old 21st Mar 2015, 14:40
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Quiet the opposite, DL of all US carriers at DUB are stable/declining while all others are growing!

Aer Lingus cost base would squeese any carriers flying accross thw poind, IAG would just add to this and put more pressure on them.
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Old 23rd Mar 2015, 17:02
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BFS v Aer Lingus court action

Any update on what is going on with the court action?
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Old 23rd Mar 2015, 19:15
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Who would Delta/Virgin wish to compete with. An independent Aer Lingus or an IAG Aer Lingus.
As far as I am aware there is no cross-subsidisation within IAG, so if Delta went on the attack against Aer Lingus then they'd be standing on their own anyhow.

IAG has benefits in terms of centralisation of admin functions and purchasing, but each airline in the group has to operate on its own financial basis.

If IAG-AL was under relentless attack, what exactly do you think IAG could do about it?
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Old 23rd Mar 2015, 19:25
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LHR / Scotland Routes

In the press today. As a carrot, supporting Heathrow expansion, the airport authority is offering incentives to make LHR / Scotland routes more attractive to airlines.

I wonder what form these will take? Will it be enough to persuade EI to continue the (ABZ,EDI) operation without VS?

Heathrow commits to increasing domestic flights in bid for expansion - Telegraph
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Old 24th Mar 2015, 00:16
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Stobart going back to Shannon, but at 8 times less the amount of flights than in June last year.

SNN-BHX will resume at 6x PW operated on a W pattern from Dublin on the 18th of June.
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Old 24th Mar 2015, 14:39
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Stobart bowing into pressure as the SNN route was extremely popular, high demand in the west country
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