Aer Lingus - 6

[irish lad]

The 10.20am arrival in New York must be one of the first arrivals from Europe, so pre clearance mightn't be as benefical as the later flights

[EI-A330-300]

Looking to be a very good day for EI:

2015 growth, missed is that Agadir goes year round and EI have decided to give Ryanair some company on Nantes.

19% increase in Q3 profit, full year to beat 2013

Staff accept pension proposals despite SIPTU advising a rejection.

[Noxegon]

oh I like the idea of a flight arriving at night!!

So do I. This is far more exciting to me than a route to IAD that piggybacks on something another airline is already doing.

[ATCO97]

Re 767 for SNN

Are ASL going to source the 767 for the Summer BOS run?
Any guess on many cabin crew it will use? Potential for
Some new recruits in SNN next Summer especially if
There to continue operating YYZ an the new early morn JFK ex DUB!!

[EISNN]

According to my sources the 767 aircraft, flight deck and FA's will all be from the one company. It won't be Air Contractors either. (Titan????) Rumblings that it might be a problem for cabin crew as someone else is doing their job and wearing their uniform. Haven't heard what EI pilots response or reaction is to it.

[j636]

EISNN

Will they not just rotate SNN crew via JFK 752 ops at DUB instead.

As for EI pilots giving they have an extra 332 to fly what moaning could they do?

Will be very surprised if one senior crew member from EI isn't onboard to oversee service.

Interesting to see EI operating margin is just 1.7% behind Ryanair!

[Just a spotter]

FG: Aer Lingus still mulling A330neo before finalising A350 plan

Flightglobal 5th Nov, carries a story on EI weighing up its options regarding the upcoming delivery of 330's and 350's.

The Irish airline initially ordered half a dozen A350-900s, as well as six A330-300s, in 2007. It later deferred and ultimately switched three of the A330s to A350s, leaving it with nine A350s initially due for delivery between 2015 and 2018.

Aer Lingus still mulling A330neo before finalising A350 plan - 11/5/2014 - Flight Global

JAS

[akerosid]

It's quite noticeable that the vibes from EI about the 330NEO seem to be a lot more muted than they were originally; "we have been invited to take another look" suggests that they took a look originally and said "meh .... no".

I wonder what Airbus is now offering that might make the 330NEO more attractive to them. I think the fundamental issue for EI is that by 2020, according to their fleet plan issued in September, they intend to have all 9 A350s in service. Their current A330 fleet is not that old at all and will easily be able to continue to 2020. Given that timeframe and the fact that the 330NEO won't be in service for a few years anyway, it doesn't leave much space in the fleet plan for a new sub-type which doesn't really give them anything more (i.e. range, capacity) than they already have.

That said, I would think that EI is VERY interested in the proposed extended range A321NEO. It intends to have five "757 size" aircraft by 2020.

[EISNN]

@J636 Yes I'd imagine they will use EI FA's on the third (early) DUB-JFK rotation seeing as they have enough staff trained up on that type. (???) However, with expansion you'd think that any company would use their own staff and not someone else's, non? It's about staff protecting their own jobs too I guess. If this was to continue where would it end? Pilots I would think will see it the same way. Just my two cents. Maybe that won't happen and EI staff will be used. I'm only repeating the rumour I'd heard.

[fivejuliet]

I don't think I'm too far wide of the mark to say all 757 crew Inc cabin crew are employed by ASL? Some EI crew on a secondment also

[Una Due Tfc]

Cabin crew are full EI, flight crew are ASL, some of the flight crew are on secondment from EI.

[j636]

@J636 Yes I'd imagine they will use EI FA's on the third (early) DUB-JFK rotation seeing as they have enough staff trained up on that type. (???) However, with expansion you'd think that any company would use their own staff and not someone else's, non? It's about staff protecting their own jobs too I guess. If this was to continue where would it end? Pilots I would think will see it the same way. Just my two cents. Maybe that won't happen and EI staff will be used. I'm only repeating the rumour I'd heard.

I agree in principal however as its for 12 weeks is it really worth training up and employing extra crew. The costs just wouldn't stack up.

You are right the lease agreement would normally be fulled crewed by the operator unless EI have agreed some changes.

If it works well this year it will likely operator for longer in 2016 and then they would train up crew for the B767.

I don't think I'm too far wide of the mark to say all 757 crew Inc cabin crew are employed by ASL? Some EI crew on a secondment also

Flight crew by ASL and all CC by Aer Lingus (many seasonal contracts)

[EISNN]

@fivejuliet I'm afraid you're incorrect there. The 757's are FULLY crewed by EI FA's (friends of mine working on it) and there's a mix of ASL and EI flight deck crew with some on unpaid leave from EI to work 757.

[EISNN]

How much on average/approximately does it cost to lease a fully crewed B767 ACMI for 12 weeks? I'd imagine the costs would stack up there too, non?

[iwak]

Is gatwick base closed from end of winter timetable! No early am departures after that from lgw and noc operated by dublin based aircraft for summer!

[Just a spotter]

An interesting reaction from Irish America to the new timing option on the TA service.

From Niall O'Dowd of Irish Central

Every time I asked about it or wrote about it I was always told it had to do with the positioning of the aircraft. My response was “What about the positioning of the passengers, wrecked after an overnight flight?”

Aer Lingus announce daytime flight to Ireland ? Hallelujah - IrishCentral.com


JAS

[Jack1985]

Is gatwick base closed from end of winter timetable! No early am departures after that from lgw and noc operated by dublin based aircraft for summer!

Yes - Base closes 28 March 2015. Staff offered relocation or redundancy.

[boyzinblue]

Does anyone know if the Dublin to Hanover route going to come back for S15?

[mart901]

Shame about LGW base but seemed inevitable eventually, at least NOC will remain and DUB will keep high frequency. I hope they remain long term at BHD, the amount of routes would indicate so, not so easy to maintain a presence there without based aircraft.NOC currently showing A319, that of course can all change.

[fivejuliet]

Thanks for info about 757 crew.

I see they have changed their mind about sending the A330 to YYZ
https://twitter.com/airlineroute/sta...28750844833792