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Did anyone think it would work?
Minoan were just the same at Oxford.
To make Regional work, you must start from a small base, not numerous destinations.
Darwin means just what to folk in the Cambridge area?
If your locals are not aware of your product, what hope do you have?
Maybe Etihad will throw £millions at Cambridge.
You just cannot start up routes with minimal advertising despite what your sales team tell you.
Pick one or two routes, make sure the airline can connect you onwards, or failing that undercut the market for 24 months.
Minoan were just the same at Oxford.
To make Regional work, you must start from a small base, not numerous destinations.
Darwin means just what to folk in the Cambridge area?
If your locals are not aware of your product, what hope do you have?
Maybe Etihad will throw £millions at Cambridge.
You just cannot start up routes with minimal advertising despite what your sales team tell you.
Pick one or two routes, make sure the airline can connect you onwards, or failing that undercut the market for 24 months.
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Darwin Airline/Etihad Regional
From 30 March 2014, the Milan-Malpensa route is cancelled, and the Amsterdam route reduced from 12 to 7 weekly frequencies. Still no news on the possible Dusseldorf routes.
wonder why 
Nick - the CAA provisional stats are released over a period of a few weeks. On the initial release date, data for approx 75% of airports is released. Over the following few weeks, the remaining airports are added. Weekly updates of provisional stats are usually published on Fridays
Provisional Airport Statistics Notes | Aviation Intelligence | About the CAA
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Still no news on the possible Dusseldorf routes.
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Nick - the CAA provisional stats are released over a period of a few weeks. On the initial release date, data for approx 75% of airports is released. Over the following few weeks, the remaining airports are added. Weekly updates of provisional stats are usually published on Fridays
London City have no figures either. It's provisional.
, sorry all
My understanding is that Darwin has been unable to secure the required slots at DUS (which is severly slot constrained). They hold some noon-time slots, but these are more or less useless for their plans.
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AFAIK, airberlin has no slots at the required times (and as most AB flights are operated by DUS-based aircraft, a slot exchange is not as easy as it appears on paper as it would ruin the aircraft's rotations for the whole day).
CAA provisional stats
1,708 scheduled passenger at Cambridge in Nov 2013.
Breakdown from the CAA so far for Cambridge is:
Amsterdam - 1,061
Geneva - 240
Milan - 206
Paris - 201
This would suggest that 1,708 passengers flew with Darwin.
I believe in November there were
51 AMS round trips - 12x per week - 21 % load factor
13 GVA round trips - 3x per week - 18 % load factor
13 MXP round trips - 3x per week - 16 % load factor
17 CDG round trips - 4x per week - 12 % load factor
With 94 round trips, this suggests an average of slightly more than 9 passengers per flight on a 50-seat aircraft, so an average load factor of 18.2%. Of course, some routes will do better than others. As has already been mentioned, effective late March 2014 CBG-MXP will close and CBG-AMS will reduces from 12x weekly to 7x weekly
Yes, November is a quiet month for commercial flying in Europe, but these passenger numbers must be of significant concern to some people at Darwin airline and Cambridge airport.
Breakdown from the CAA so far for Cambridge is:
Amsterdam - 1,061
Geneva - 240
Milan - 206
Paris - 201
This would suggest that 1,708 passengers flew with Darwin.
I believe in November there were
51 AMS round trips - 12x per week - 21 % load factor
13 GVA round trips - 3x per week - 18 % load factor
13 MXP round trips - 3x per week - 16 % load factor
17 CDG round trips - 4x per week - 12 % load factor
With 94 round trips, this suggests an average of slightly more than 9 passengers per flight on a 50-seat aircraft, so an average load factor of 18.2%. Of course, some routes will do better than others. As has already been mentioned, effective late March 2014 CBG-MXP will close and CBG-AMS will reduces from 12x weekly to 7x weekly
Yes, November is a quiet month for commercial flying in Europe, but these passenger numbers must be of significant concern to some people at Darwin airline and Cambridge airport.
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Dec 2013 stats
Amsterdam - 1103 pax
Geneva - 335 pax
Milan - 209 pax
Paris - 226 pax
I'm presuming around Xmas, some flights did not operate - I'm guessing all day on 25+26 Dec and the evenings of 24+31 Dec there were no flights. This would indicate
AMS - 47 round trips - 23% load factor
GVA - 12 round trips - 28% load factor
MXP - 14 round trips - 15% load factor
CDG - 17 round trips - 13% load factor
Overall, 10.4 passengers per flight, or an average load factor of 21 %
Slightly better than November but still a lot of improvement needed
Amsterdam - 1103 pax
Geneva - 335 pax
Milan - 209 pax
Paris - 226 pax
I'm presuming around Xmas, some flights did not operate - I'm guessing all day on 25+26 Dec and the evenings of 24+31 Dec there were no flights. This would indicate
AMS - 47 round trips - 23% load factor
GVA - 12 round trips - 28% load factor
MXP - 14 round trips - 15% load factor
CDG - 17 round trips - 13% load factor
Overall, 10.4 passengers per flight, or an average load factor of 21 %
Slightly better than November but still a lot of improvement needed
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Dillon-Godfray was previously Oxford airport’s business development director, says Marshall
Oxfords December figures -
ATM's -77.8% on Dec 12
Pax Dec 13 -91.1% on Dec 12.
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Just tried to book my summer holiday flights; was willing to take the risk that Darwin will still exist and operate flights from Cambridge by then.
They've changed the timetable to what? :-( The current timetable of two flights a day three days a week is more useful than a daily late evening flight. That's a) no use if I'm going to stay in Amsterdam and b) No use if I'm going to change at Amsterdam :-(
They've changed the timetable to what? :-( The current timetable of two flights a day three days a week is more useful than a daily late evening flight. That's a) no use if I'm going to stay in Amsterdam and b) No use if I'm going to change at Amsterdam :-(
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1,708 scheduled passenger at Cambridge in Nov 2013.
<<Breakdown from the CAA so far for Cambridge is:
Amsterdam - 1,061
Geneva - 240
Milan - 206
Paris - 201
This would suggest that 1,708 passengers flew with Darwin.
I believe in November there were
51 AMS round trips - 12x per week - 21 % load factor
13 GVA round trips - 3x per week - 18 % load factor
13 MXP round trips - 3x per week - 16 % load factor
17 CDG round trips - 4x per week - 12 % load factor>>
Dear god so happy I'm not an investor.
We're talking Imperial Airways 1920s load factors here.
Stop it now before more good (but naive) peoples' money is dispatched down the tail pipe.
<<Breakdown from the CAA so far for Cambridge is:
Amsterdam - 1,061
Geneva - 240
Milan - 206
Paris - 201
This would suggest that 1,708 passengers flew with Darwin.
I believe in November there were
51 AMS round trips - 12x per week - 21 % load factor
13 GVA round trips - 3x per week - 18 % load factor
13 MXP round trips - 3x per week - 16 % load factor
17 CDG round trips - 4x per week - 12 % load factor>>
Dear god so happy I'm not an investor.
We're talking Imperial Airways 1920s load factors here.
Stop it now before more good (but naive) peoples' money is dispatched down the tail pipe.
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Slot applications by Darwin at DUS (for flights to CBG, LCY, TXL) have apparently been withdrawn as no suitable slots could be obtained. Not sure if this will have some effect on the remaining CBG summer schedule.
Jan 2013 stats
Amsterdam - 1,097 pax
Geneva - 356 pax
Milan - 169 pax
Paris - 136 pax
This would suggest that 1,758 pax flew with Darwin
I believe in January there were
AMS - 52 round trips - 12x per week - 21 % load factor
GVA - 13 round trips - 3x per week - 27 % load factor
MXP - 13 round trips - 3x per week - 13 % load factor
CDG - 17 round trips - 4x per week - 8 % load factor
From March:
Amsterdam goes from 12x weekly to daily
Geneva is reduced to 1x weekly (Saturday)
Milan is cancelled
Paris is cancelled
Looks as if Darwin's adventure at Cambridge is coming to a close
Amsterdam - 1,097 pax
Geneva - 356 pax
Milan - 169 pax
Paris - 136 pax
This would suggest that 1,758 pax flew with Darwin
I believe in January there were
AMS - 52 round trips - 12x per week - 21 % load factor
GVA - 13 round trips - 3x per week - 27 % load factor
MXP - 13 round trips - 3x per week - 13 % load factor
CDG - 17 round trips - 4x per week - 8 % load factor
From March:
Amsterdam goes from 12x weekly to daily
Geneva is reduced to 1x weekly (Saturday)
Milan is cancelled
Paris is cancelled
Looks as if Darwin's adventure at Cambridge is coming to a close
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Looks as if the LEJ and CBG operation is combined so that it can be operated by a single, LEJ-based Saab 2000. The aircraft will do LEJ-CDG twice daily, LEJ-AMS once daily and AMS-CBG once daily, therefore also providing a one-stop LEJ-AMS-CBG vv. service. However, I cannot find any flights later than the end of March.