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Thanks both of you. This is what I came across - US preclearance at Stockholm Arlanda Airport - Swedavia
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The airlines aren't going to use a mainland Europe airport as a hub when Dublin is the first stop.
Tell that to the airlines who are operating from hubs allover Europe to the USA. Maybe you know something that they don't?
Tell that to the airlines who are operating from hubs allover Europe to the USA. Maybe you know something that they don't?
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Most of those airlines are not American. Preclearance would never work in big airports anyway due to passenger volumes, it would be even worse than NYC.
Airports just need to be designed to handle it. The large airports in Canada make Dublin's CBP look pathetic, with large post-clearance areas with shops, bars, waiting areas etc.
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And the irony is that all the post cbp retailing in Montreal is run by dublin airports Ari team.
Had as enjoyable a wait as possible for a heavily delayed United Express flight last year, I would have probably gone out of my mind in DUBs CBP "lounge".
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Branded identically to DUB, at that.
Had as enjoyable a wait as possible for a heavily delayed United Express flight last year, I would have probably gone out of my mind in DUBs CBP "lounge".
Had as enjoyable a wait as possible for a heavily delayed United Express flight last year, I would have probably gone out of my mind in DUBs CBP "lounge".
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The problem is that post cbp is considered U.S. territory
It remains host-country territory,diplomatically and legally, however:
4. Within the preclearance area, the Host Party shall:
...
(d) authorize the Inspecting Party's preclearance
officers who act on reasonable grounds to use as much
force as is necessary to perform their preclearance
duties under the Agreement. The preclearance officer
may not use force that is intended or is likely to
cause death or cause grievous bodily harm, unless the
officer believes on reasonable grounds that it is
necessary for self-preservation or the preservation of
anyone in the preclearance area from death or grievous
harm.
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(d) authorize the Inspecting Party's preclearance
officers who act on reasonable grounds to use as much
force as is necessary to perform their preclearance
duties under the Agreement. The preclearance officer
may not use force that is intended or is likely to
cause death or cause grievous bodily harm, unless the
officer believes on reasonable grounds that it is
necessary for self-preservation or the preservation of
anyone in the preclearance area from death or grievous
harm.
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So basically Ireland ( or Canada or whomever ) grants US officials physical power over host-country citizens on host-country territory.
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Ryanair launched winter 15 which sess Lunlin resumed while a new daily service to CPH begins (fourth carrier) now. Some increases elsewhere BCN goes 3 daily, clearly a Vueling determent as when they operated at Xmas they operated a third daily.
http://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ne...ule/?market=ie
http://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ne...ule/?market=ie
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Four airlines to CPH? I wonder how long that will last. It wasn't long ago that SK was the only airline on the route. What has brought on the sudden increase? Scandinavia has long been very poorly connected to Ireland. Is it a case of Norwegian trying to encroach on FR's home territory. FR really don't like that. The question is how long will the other three hang around for?
I'd be less troubled about BCN. Always a very popular destination that can probably support more flights and airlines than most. I'll be interested to see how Vueling do, its been a while since DUB had a new airline, I wonder if they will have more inbound passengers? Im sure most Irish wouldn't have a clue who that Vueling crowd are!
I'd be less troubled about BCN. Always a very popular destination that can probably support more flights and airlines than most. I'll be interested to see how Vueling do, its been a while since DUB had a new airline, I wonder if they will have more inbound passengers? Im sure most Irish wouldn't have a clue who that Vueling crowd are!
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There is a history of EI starting and stopping the CPH route, hopefully this time they will hold on. I hope that the US connectivity will render the route sustainable.
I suspect SK and DY will exit sooner than EI and FR. EI will hold out, if their approach is to exit in the face of extremely low fares like the 60c I've just paid for return, they may as well take that approach across their network and so routes like DUB BRU would be canned too. I can't see that happening.
EI are quite resilient, time has shown that.
I suspect SK and DY will exit sooner than EI and FR. EI will hold out, if their approach is to exit in the face of extremely low fares like the 60c I've just paid for return, they may as well take that approach across their network and so routes like DUB BRU would be canned too. I can't see that happening.
EI are quite resilient, time has shown that.
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EI offer no connections. DY may keep it to show the US they are not just taking advantage of AOC.
SK got rid of EI and FR off Stockholm so don't under estimate them within 12 months, first FR and then EI.
SK got rid of EI and FR off Stockholm so don't under estimate them within 12 months, first FR and then EI.