DUBLIN - 2

[Sober Lark]

No one involved with DUB was able to follow through with strategic foresight or infrastructure planning so lets stop to the fantasy of imagining we are on the cusp of being in a position to exploit the economic opportunities presented by the current situation.

[alserire]

All US bound flights pre clear in Dublin. Am I correct?

[owenc]

You southerners fail to realise that there is a world of Northern Ireland outside of Belfast..

There are areas where Dublin will never be a convenient airport of choice.

[ia350]

Southerners isn't a nice word to describe us .

[GCUFD]

You southerners fail to realise that there is a world of Northern Ireland outside of Belfast..

There are areas where Dublin will never be a convenient airport of choice.

Yawn. Dubliners certainly realise a reluctance to add up figures by people who live West of a line drawn through Mullingar.

A few salient facts:
Dublin Airport passenger numbers 21 million
Belfast International passenger numbers 4 million
Belfast City passenger numbers 2.5 million
Cork Airport 2 million
Shannon Airport 1.6 million
Knock Airport 700,000
City of Derry Airport 400,000
Farranfore Airport 300,000

I'm probably leaving out somewhere, but that won't greatly impact the figures.

There's about 25 million passenger journeys in and out of airports in the Republic. Over 80% of them are through Dublin Airport.

There's about 32 million journeys in and out of airports in the whole of Ireland, if we add in the 7 million relating to Northern Ireland. Dublin Airport accounts for 65% of all island traffic. I'd suggest that means Dublin is already, overwhelmingly, the airport of choice for most people in Ireland.

[EI-A330-300]

Aer Lingus back to LA is the rumour for this summer. Currently in the process of sourcing another airframe.

Would be very surprised if they made such a "rushed" announcement. 2016 quiet possible especially if fuel prices stay kind!

All US bound flights pre clear in Dublin. Am I correct?

Indeed except ET.

[alserire]

Thanks EI-A330. Much appreciated.

[DollarBill]

Well stated GCUFD.


I wouldn't pay any heed to owenc, he has recently been banned from at least 1 other aviation forum for his derailing of threads and his mule headed distaste for the DUB centric Irish aviation sector.
"well I don't want to travel to DUB so I can't see why anyone else would? Sure you would have to be up at 3am to get there"
He also takes exception when his opinions/subjective experience aren't taken as fact by other posters.

Please note owenc, I merely stated facts as I see them rather than attack your character.

[ia350]

A 14% increase in passenger numbers for January .

[Fairdealfrank]

All US bound flights pre clear in Dublin. Am I correct?

Indeed except ET.

Any particular reason that ET does not use pre-clearance?

[EI-A330-300]

It wont be open at 05.30 but suspect hours are not the only reason. They will likely use it in the future.

[owenc]

As if i'm not going to take that as an attack pet. Your immature attack will ruin the atmosphere of the thread extensively.

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[irish lad]

I guess the time it would take to ET to use the US facilities at Dublin will also be a factor in them not using it in the future. Unload 250 pax, put them all through the pre clearance and re load them wouldn't be a fast task I'd imagine and hope no issues arise with passengers that could delay the flight. It takes BA 40mins at Shannon to use the pre clearance facility on a 50 seater flight.

[EI-A330-300]

I guess the time it would take to ET to use the US facilities at Dublin will also be a factor in them not using it in the future. Unload 250 pax, put them all through the pre clearance and re load them wouldn't be a fast task I'd imagine and hope no issues arise with passengers that could delay the flight. It takes BA 40mins at Shannon to use the pre clearance facility on a 50 seater flight.

Adequate staffing should see it possible with a 90 minute turnaround at most 2 hours. The passengers are going to be offloaded anyway for refueling. Think the daa require passengers off but somebody else may know their policy on this.

BTW the SNN aircraft is 32.

[blaggerman]

ET stop is a 1 hour technical stop for fuel. En-route passengers will stay on board. There's nothing unusual about that. Using preclearance on westbound flights would require offloading of all passengers and baggage, adding unnecessary complexity. Some passengers will leave or join the flight, but that's incidental.

[737aviator]

Refuelling with passengers on board is normal at Dublin, nothing unusual about it.

[EI-A330-300]

Ethiopian bringing the 787 on 20 March.

[Sober Lark]

Great while DUB has this advantage at present but almost every major European airport will have US pre-clear in the near future won't they?

[Cian]

Great while DUB has this advantage at present but almost every major European airport will have US pre-clear in the near future won't they?

Not without significant rebuilding, no. It only really works when you've got a single terminal used for all US-bound traffic. Also, there's not many governments who'd be willing to sign all the required treaties with the US in the first place.

[EI-A330-300]

Great while DUB has this advantage at present but almost every major European airport will have US pre-clear in the near future won't they?

Not without significant rebuilding, no. It only really works when you've got a single terminal used for all US-bound traffic. Also, there's not many governments who'd be willing to sign all the required treaties with the US in the first place.

Incheon International announced they wouldn't operating a USPC facility on the grounds of cost, space, usage and the loss of revenue to the airport last month.