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A White Elephant is useless. T2 is clearly not. As someone else pointed out would there be US Pre Clearance for every flight in T1 if there was no T2? I doubt it.
The simple fact is that 20 million passengers in one terminal per year was lunatic. Argue about the cost by all means but it certainly isn't a white elephant. Both terminals are far more pleasant to pass through than T1 was at its height.
The simple fact is that 20 million passengers in one terminal per year was lunatic. Argue about the cost by all means but it certainly isn't a white elephant. Both terminals are far more pleasant to pass through than T1 was at its height.
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Funny how that no matter how many times its explained to certain Ryanair fanbois that T2 didn't cost a billion they return to making that claim. As if there's no other facet of an argument left...
Funny how that no matter how many times its explained to certain Ryanair fanbois that T2 didn't cost a billion they return to making that claim. As if there's no other facet of an argument left...
The cost of building T2 plus the write off of Assets previously built at Dublin pretty much hit the billion mark.
There was land held by McEvaddy brothers who proposed building a low cost terminal for a fraction of DAA costs but DAA and Unions did everything in their power to ensure it never could happen.
After all this would destroy their powerbase then again the Unions did offer to run T2.
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The type of high yielding Business passengers which FR are now trying to attract won't settle for rubbish airport services. FR want more profit however they are having to spend more to achieve it.
While I don't like unions bowing to FR demands shouldn't happen either as it will never end well. By the way the some of the cost of T2 will not be paid through airport charges.
Feel like just putting the links up to the debate that happened here 4 years ago.
The cost of building T2 plus the write off of Assets previously built at Dublin pretty much hit the billion mark.
There was land held by McEvaddy brothers who proposed building a low cost terminal for a fraction of DAA costs but DAA and Unions did everything in their power to ensure it never could happen.
After all this would destroy their powerbase then again the Unions did offer to run T2.
The cost of building T2 plus the write off of Assets previously built at Dublin pretty much hit the billion mark.
There was land held by McEvaddy brothers who proposed building a low cost terminal for a fraction of DAA costs but DAA and Unions did everything in their power to ensure it never could happen.
After all this would destroy their powerbase then again the Unions did offer to run T2.
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The cost of building T2 plus the write off of Assets previously built at Dublin pretty much hit the billion mark.
1Bn was the cost of the entire set of works to the airport, including Pier D - without which, FR wouldn't have particularly much to operate from. T2 didn't cost 1Bn and even if you manage to justify pulling unconnected costs it, you're not going to "pretty much hit" 1Bn either. You really need to stop believing this crap, as it makes for an incredibly weak argument when you parrot it to people who know it to be false.
There was land held by McEvaddy brothers who proposed building a low cost terminal for a fraction of DAA costs but DAA and Unions did everything in their power to ensure it never could happen.
Go ahead - because whatever you're going to post isn't going to show that.
1Bn was the cost of the entire set of works to the airport, including Pier D - without which, FR wouldn't have particularly much to operate from. T2 didn't cost 1Bn and even if you manage to justify pulling unconnected costs it, you're not going to "pretty much hit" 1Bn either. You really need to stop believing this crap, as it makes for an incredibly weak argument when you parrot it to people who know it to be false.
1Bn was the cost of the entire set of works to the airport, including Pier D - without which, FR wouldn't have particularly much to operate from. T2 didn't cost 1Bn and even if you manage to justify pulling unconnected costs it, you're not going to "pretty much hit" 1Bn either. You really need to stop believing this crap, as it makes for an incredibly weak argument when you parrot it to people who know it to be false.
Dublin didn't need a Billion spent on it, just like Cork didn't need $200 million spent on it.
There's nowhere in the world where the scheme they cooked up would have been allowed, despite what Micky tells us.
Funny how its possible to privately build cost effective facilities elsewhere while Dublin blew a billion that will never be paid off.
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Then suggest you go back and reread.
Not when you have the DAA management and Politicians involved.
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Racedo is big enough to argue his/her own case, so I'll stay out of that, but here's one example of a competing terminal (JFK T4).
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The same set as BfS in summer and a B738 Fri-Sun during winter. Aircraft positions from the UK. They also use EI this year to cut costs, used to be Thur to Sun based. They use a couple of other carriers in summer.
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Costs of Dublin Airport
To one and all can I firstly say Merry Christmas and thanks to all who contributed to the forum this year.
I think the debate should move on from how much T2 cost to build; this is past event and can not be undone at this point.
My vision is that the scale of transatlantic operations can increase and Dublin can become a sort of mini Dubai for EU-US traffic and that is really achievable given our geography. Therefore, I see that we will need increased facilities. There may also be a need to develop extra facilities ...
Lets hope that when this does happen that DAA have learned from the T2 project, while it probably could have been done cheaper, it was celtic tiger Ireland when the whole thing was developed, a vastly different world to the one we now know.
I think the debate should move on from how much T2 cost to build; this is past event and can not be undone at this point.
My vision is that the scale of transatlantic operations can increase and Dublin can become a sort of mini Dubai for EU-US traffic and that is really achievable given our geography. Therefore, I see that we will need increased facilities. There may also be a need to develop extra facilities ...
Lets hope that when this does happen that DAA have learned from the T2 project, while it probably could have been done cheaper, it was celtic tiger Ireland when the whole thing was developed, a vastly different world to the one we now know.
Racedo is big enough to argue his/her own case, so I'll stay out of that, but here's one example of a competing terminal (JFK T4).
http://www.ucd.ie/geary/static/publi...ryWp200506.pdf
Study which looked at competing Terminals in Dublin which was looked at as a Govt policy until the politicians bottled it as already indicated.
Instead they blew a billion on T2.
Irelands Dept of Transport opposed ANY changes in Finance Ministers changes to charges to increase passenger throughput at Dublin which kind of shows why Civil Servants and Govt Monpolies are best kept out of aviation.
