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Desperate airport, with unspent marketing support funding left over after Darwin's rapid exit
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Credulous airline with spare aircraft but apparently lacking anyone able to sceptically analyse rose-tinted airport "forecasts" or organise a launch at more than 2 weeks' notice
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Recipe for commercial disaster
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Credulous airline with spare aircraft but apparently lacking anyone able to sceptically analyse rose-tinted airport "forecasts" or organise a launch at more than 2 weeks' notice
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Recipe for commercial disaster
Originally Posted by racedo
Dub-Cambridge................... keep wondering why?
Anyone know what the estimated catchment numbers and demographics for Southend and Cambridge look like?
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They claim a potential of 115,000 passengers per year between Dublin and Cambridge.
In English what this is likely to mean is "we looked at a CAA survey and saw that there were 115,000 passengers going between Dublin and the postcodes in our catchment area."
It doesn't take account of the fact that virtually all of those are doing so via multiple daily Ryanair flights from Stansted just down the road. (Ryanair carried over 700,000 passengers between Stansted and Dublin in 2013.)
In addition, that 115,000 number seems to include the connecting possibilities to the US through Dublin (which by and large don't exist with the CityJet schedule) so the real point-to-point potential will be a LOT less.
CityJet is planning to fly 12 F50 round trips between Dublin and Cambridge every week, or about 62,000 seats a year.
This will be ugly.
(Note that I'm not suggesting there is no potential between Dublin and Cambridge. There is. But it really needs to be an Aer Lingus-branded flight offering transatlantic connections - THAT could work.)
Here, incidentally, is some catchment information for Southend.
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Sorry for the aerosexual question.
I see EI-STA is back in DUB operating the summer charters. Anyone know where is was on the off season?
I see EI-STA is back in DUB operating the summer charters. Anyone know where is was on the off season?
I heard a story over the weekend that there are some interesting conversations between IAA, Dublin Airport, Tourism Ireland and the organisers of the Giro d'Italia. The story goes that the organisers of the event want to have helicopters follow the entire route for TV coverage, including the stage through the coastal strip of north county Dublin and on into the city. Seems ,they're not too impressed by the suggestion that allowing unfettered flying across an approach/departure for Dublin's main runway is a no-no.
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Over 1.8 million passengers in April up 13%, Year to date almost 5.9 million up 7%.
Latest News > 1.8 Million Passengers In April At Dublin Airport
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In addition to Flybe service to LCY, they are overnighting a second Dash-8 and increasing SOU from 3 to 4 daily (3 on sun).
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Welcome 'Flybe Ireland' 
Aer Lingus regional could have made a real go of DUB SOU route with a twice daily business orientated service with an early departure ex DUB and the feed from the US, probably not attractive now. Mind you to be fair to Flybe they have consistently defended their patch at SOU...
Aer Lingus regional could have made a real go of DUB SOU route with a twice daily business orientated service with an early departure ex DUB and the feed from the US, probably not attractive now. Mind you to be fair to Flybe they have consistently defended their patch at SOU...
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Good to see Flybe increasing SOU though, DUB has been a fairly strong performer for some time with them, even with EI Regional flying BOH-DUB more recently (admittedly at a far lower frequency).
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Varadkar's draft aviation policy does have an uplifting vision for Dublin Airport, and a firm grasp of its potential. For instance
Previous policies have tended to beat around the bush, rather than acknowledge this kind of reality.
I'm intriged, but don't know, what precisely this statment means
To ensure future connectivity and to deliver growth, it will be important that the State airports, Dublin in particular, have runways of sufficient length to enable services to operate to global emerging markets without weight restriction.<...> Dublin Airport has secured the land needed for such a runway. While planning permission has already been secured by the DAA for the project, this may need to be revisited to take account of any future Government decisions on a second runway following the outcome of the infrastructure/capacity review that DAA will be required to carry out in 2015.
What changes might be needed to the current planning permission?
http://www.dttas.ie/sites/default/fi...ion-policy.pdf
Many of the respondents considered that Dublin Airport is the only airport in the State which could be described as critical to national business and tourism needs. It handles 80% of all passengers into and out of the State and 85% of air freight.
Many of the respondents considered that Dublin Airport is the only airport in the State which could be described as critical to national business and tourism needs. It handles 80% of all passengers into and out of the State and 85% of air freight.
I'm intriged, but don't know, what precisely this statment means
To ensure future connectivity and to deliver growth, it will be important that the State airports, Dublin in particular, have runways of sufficient length to enable services to operate to global emerging markets without weight restriction.<...> Dublin Airport has secured the land needed for such a runway. While planning permission has already been secured by the DAA for the project, this may need to be revisited to take account of any future Government decisions on a second runway following the outcome of the infrastructure/capacity review that DAA will be required to carry out in 2015.