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Old 16th Nov 2012, 13:52
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Quote: "I see Ryanair will be the main airline hit with increases as airlines who don't use airbridges will pay more."

Doubtless Michael O'Leary will have something to say.....

Makes sense in a way, it must cost more to run busses (vehicles, fuel, staff, etc.) to remote stands, compared to contact gates. On the other hand, could the convenience of the latter attract a higher charge?

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FR bussing DAP

MOL is currently undercutting DAA fees for bussing by using Servisair , DAA must be sore at that because its a whole lot of buses everyday that DAA are missing fees on
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Old 16th Nov 2012, 15:08
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Ryanair describes the DAA's proposed increase in charges as "unacceptable and irresponsible":

DAA Price Increases For 2013 Show That "The Gathering" Is Another Govt Rip Off
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Old 16th Nov 2012, 16:32
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how often do fr bus passengers to aircraft. Cant see pier d being that busy.
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Old 16th Nov 2012, 17:17
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Bus Pier D

Well 189 seatER arrival and dept
x how Many flights per day is a HUGE movement ?

Its like the M50 sometimes
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Since when do FR bus people to planes at DUB ?

EI the ones doing the complaining 2 weeks ago about little facilities available for that at Dub.
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Since when do FR bus people to planes at DUB ?
I was surprised at that too but I have personally experienced it four times so far in the past year (to and from the aircraft) - all at off-peak times. Saves that long walk to/from the far end of Pier D

The bus embarkation and disembarkation point was at the old terminal the outside of which is not looking its best at the moment.
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Old 16th Nov 2012, 20:41
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All I will say on Ryanairs statement is pot kettle black...

Aer Lingus Regional basing a fourth aircraft DUB from March. EDI will be 5 daily EI regional comapred to 2 EI regional and 1 mainline this summer. Early morning departures will be EDI, GLA, BRS and CWL.

Since when do FR bus people to planes at DUB ?

EI the ones doing the complaining 2 weeks ago about little facilities available for that at Dub.
A few stands on Pier D are not accesable by passengers walking to aircraft so mainly when an aircraft arrives and there is a long gap between flights they go to those stands so gates won't be blocked for aircraft on short turnarounds. Thats why it only happens off peak.

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Old 18th Nov 2012, 09:12
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Dublin/Alicante

It is truly amazing that EI and FR 'compete' on DUB ALC, yet they always in each season seem to have flights on the same days often at similar times, and prices outrageous.

Take this Christmas, between €475 and €540 return each including one checked bag. Flights dont seem to be heavily booked either.

Highly unlikely that many would accept this but it seems in so many ways that the 2 airlines in some way work together in the interest of yield on some routes. And then some comment that once Ryanair takeover the collective unit of EI and FR can still drive value for the consumer.

Ironically, for the last 2 summers, Belfast has more flights per week to Alicante than Dublin did and the Dublin Alicante route in the height of the celtic tiger had as many as 3 and sometimes 4 flights per day return.

One does wonder....
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 12:54
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Can I ask what dates you are checking with Aer Lingus as most flights out and back before Christmas and back after the New Year are very full with limited seats left on some flights.
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 13:16
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I imagine it's all supply and demand, it's probably a very popular route around the holidays with many people getting away for a bit of winter sun.
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Just read i nov business traveller mag that ei moving to t2 in lhr nxt year and ac going year round to yyz
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Originally Posted by stab3.5up
Just read i nov business traveller mag that ei moving to t2 in lhr nxt year and ac going year round to yyz
Was announced a couple of months ago when Air Canada announced a code share with Aer Lingus. AC won't be going year-round from DUB though, they just mean that with the code share people will be able to travel with AC year-round directly from DUB or through LHR with EI.
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Old 19th Nov 2012, 11:10
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I don't think there's any EI/AC codeshare. They just announced a resumption of interline ticketing. A codeshare may follow, but nothing is agreed.
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Old 19th Nov 2012, 12:06
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Originally Posted by blaggerman
I don't think there's any EI/AC codeshare. They just announced a resumption of interline ticketing. A codeshare may follow, but nothing is agreed.
Yeah sorry an interline agreement, though Air Canada said this was a preliminary step towards a full code share early next year.

Air Canada and Aer Lingus Sign Interline Agreement - Sep 21, 2012
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Old 19th Nov 2012, 22:41
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Before EI/AC signed the above AC had already said they plan to operate year round once the loco is up and running.

In other positive according to United Irish Sales Manager the new IAD services has exceeded all expectations for UA and booking continue to remain very positive.
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Old 20th Nov 2012, 12:11
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UA IAD

cancelled today , and already down to 4 days a week , I do beleive all airline sales managers will give the same answer, a positive spin

today Dublin had one UA instead of two
one DLinstead of 2
zero USair instead of one

fuel price , passenger volumes dropped like a cliff this month , its tough out there...
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Old 20th Nov 2012, 13:47
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cancelled today , and already down to 4 days a week , I do beleive all airline sales managers will give the same answer, a positive spin

today Dublin had one UA instead of two
one DLinstead of 2
zero USair instead of one

fuel price , passenger volumes dropped like a cliff this month , its tough out there...
These reductions happen every winter and remenber all IAD flights didn't operate last winter and its 5 weekly until early in the new year when it drops to 4.

IAD is proforming much better than CLT and 2013 could be the last season of the route unless it improves.

Latest News > Major Growth In US-Irish Traffic Expected For 2013
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Old 20th Nov 2012, 15:12
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cancelled USA Flights

I'm surprised to hear that flights are being cancelled this wk due to low passenger demands.... thanksgiving is on Thursday I'd expect a lot of americans based in Ireland to fly home. I flew UA127 to IAD on Sunday 18th nov - it was almost full just two seats in business empty.
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Old 20th Nov 2012, 21:39
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Originally Posted by riptack
I'm surprised to hear that flights are being cancelled this wk due to low passenger demands
Not sure that's what's being said - surely it's just the usual change from the summer to the winter season and the consequent disappearance of summer-season-only flights?
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