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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 12:37
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I last used T1 in August and I had no problems and I would be the same as you about security at the airport but didn't know it had got that bad in 2 months. Due out of T1 end of the month so better allow extra time just in case.
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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 12:41
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Just after reading an interview with Etihad CEO about there Dublin routes.

2 daily in 2016 with 787 due to aircraft availablity issues not until then
Expect a 85% LF for 2012
First month of Aer Lingus condeshare dilevered 500 passengers
EY route still very profitable

I think if they wait until 2016 to go 2 daily it will be to late and EK will benefit.
Given that in the airline business a week is short term, next month is medium term and anything between that and 6 months is long term then their CEO is blowing smoke.

He doesn't even know whether he will be in a job in a years time never mind 4 years...............
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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 13:24
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according to Aer Lingus' Annual Report 2011, is that 21% of passenger revenues are now generated from passengers connecting from inter-airline carriers:I think this statement has been slightly misunderstood. This indicates that 21% of its turnover is being feed into its network from other carriers. (I'm not sure if Aer Lingus Regional is classed as an 'inter airline carrier')

What it means is that BA/KLM/VS/JetBlue/United/(Arann?) provide 20% of EI pax revenue.
(LHR/AMS/LGW/JFK/ORD/BOS would be the main routes providing this)
This is revenue rather than actual % of total pax numbers,they could be much higher. We can expect this number/% to grow as the Air Canada and Ethiad interline/codeshare agreements gather strength.

I like the comparison with Icelandair....that 80% of longhaul pax numbers are sourced outside the home market. In a meeting with the CEO a number of year ago I made this point. I used Icelandair and Finnair as examples of airlines who utilise their geographical position to draw in a lot more traffic than their Home market could provide. The previous EI CEO had implemented a (IMO ludicrous) policy of operating shorthaul and longhaul as more or less seperate entities.

In other statemnts EI have said that over 47% of their pax bookings are from outside Ireland. (2011 report page 8)

Funnily enough page 8 of the 2011 results states that EI will take delivery of 3 A350 in 2015, this was supposed to be 4,with 2 more in 2016. Perhaps they have been pushed back due A350 delays. No mention of deferrring the 4,5 or 6 deliveries.

[email protected] Racedo, I contradicted myself in my own post!

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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 13:32
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according to Aer Lingus' Annual Report 2011, is that 21% of passenger revenues are now generated from passengers connecting from inter-airline carriers:I think this statement has been slightly misunderstood. This indicates that 1 in 5 EI pax are being feed into its network from other carriers. I'm not sure if Aer Lingus Regional is classed as an 'inter airline carrier'.
Think you are confusing Pax and Rev.

21% of Revenue is only the same as 21% of passengers when every passenger is paying the same amount for every flight.

As Pax travelling T/A will be paying more then would suggest its way less than 21% of passengers.
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Old 3rd Nov 2012, 02:17
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SAS increasing Oslo from 4 to 6 weekly from April next year. Norwegian have also scheduled an extra 16 flights to Oslo over the summer period. The flights will be 3 weekly from April to October and not just June-August as was last summer.

Must check again but I think Copenhagen could see a slight fall in capacity next summer.

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Old 4th Nov 2012, 01:13
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Quote: "I used Icelandair and Finnair as examples of airlines who utilise their geographical position to draw in a lot more traffic than their Home market could provide."

There are many: KL, CX, SQ, QR, EK, EY, GF, WY for example.

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Old 4th Nov 2012, 11:47
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I never implied that Icelandair or Finnair were industry innovators. But when giving an example you have to look at what comparable airlines are doing. Thus FI and AY are similar in size and geography to EI. (and in geograpical positions, FI and EI operate on teh periphery of Europe, AY offers shorter USA-Euro-Asia connections that the rest of Europe)

Looking worldwide the prime example of this scenario has to be the Gulf carriers. DXB and AUH are pretty much central to the majority of locations on the planet. In the case of EK they are offering so much capacity that they can undercut other carriers (who may well be shorter in distance/time) using their massive economy of scale.
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Old 4th Nov 2012, 12:06
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Dublin could have established itself as a hub a lot sooner had Aerlingus not been slaves of the Shannon Stop over. Now that Shannon has managed to hold on to 3 airlines on New York , Aerlingus to Boston and re established seasonal services to Chicago and Philidelphia, one wonders what all the fuss was about?
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Old 6th Nov 2012, 08:22
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Does anybody know what the actual capacity uplift is from Dublin to the USA next year ?

Frequency/ Capacity/ New Routes re EI and US airlines
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Old 6th Nov 2012, 11:06
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Frequency/ Capacity/ New Routes re EI and US airlines
Jamie2k9 posted 2 pagess back that the new daily AA service and the extra daily rotations from EI next summer is approx 166,000 extra seats, it dosn't inculde the recently announced capacity increase from US airways.
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Old 6th Nov 2012, 12:57
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cheers missed that, ill check
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 14:26
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Happy to report that DUB security at T1 was back to its best today with no delays and through-times only a few minutes. However, I will reserve judgment until next time as, after the Bank Holiday and half-term rush, there were not very many passengers around. My flight (BA) was barely half full if even that.
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 14:38
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Dublin W12 BA schedule

I am curious to know why BA822/3 is cancelled every day since W12 tt came into effect , any reason?
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Old 8th Nov 2012, 12:54
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Over 1.7 million passengers in October up 10% (school mid term could be a factor?)

Europe - 910,000 up 13%
UK - 605,000 up 4%
Transatlantic - 142,000 up 10%
Middle East/Africa - 39,000 up 79%
Domestic - 5,000 up 8%

Just under 16.5 million year to date up 1%

Latest News > 1.7M Passengers In October At Dublin Airport

I think thats 5 months of small growth but would expect it to decline from Jan 13 if not a little before that.
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Old 8th Nov 2012, 13:00
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Dub growth

thats good news and EI and FR both say bookings outlook good for rest year , just 2 months to go, mind you surprised at domestic, just 2 routes KIR and CFN and they grew.....must be all those code shares heading to Aussie via Etihad and Emirates ....
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Old 8th Nov 2012, 16:29
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Very good stats. I see DUB saw a new aircraft type arrive today. TK operated there first B737-900ER aircraft this afternoon.
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Old 9th Nov 2012, 09:17
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Thumbs down

No futura operated there 737-900 into dub before they went under.
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Old 12th Nov 2012, 16:29
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Helsinki

Has EI cut Helsinki ? It seems to be the only jet service route from Dublin to not be loaded onto the timetable ? I would've thought it would have been a very profitable route

And what about Krakow and Vilnius ?

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Old 15th Nov 2012, 21:44
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Latest News > Modest Adjustment To Dublin Airport Charges Proposed For 2013

It would appear that DY will be dropping there 3 weekly service to CPH from 30 March.
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Old 16th Nov 2012, 13:34
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I see Ryanair will be the main airline hit with increases as airlines who don't use airbridges will pay more.
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