DUBLIN - 2

[ryan2000]

Ryanair and Aerlingus regularly did Cork Dublin in 25 mins.

[EI-BUD]

What is the actual flying time BFS-DUB? Thanks

I am going on BFS DUB ALC tomorrow. Flying BFS DUB should be max 15 mins.

[Stewart28]

Did not know there was a flight from BFS to DUB

[PPRuNeUser0176]

What's this huge amount of connecting passengers on EI's long haul? Can someone put a daily volume or average % by load factor on it?

Thank

Almost sure about a year or two somebody saiid that a third of T?A EI passengers were connecting and since then Aer Lingus have grown there connections so it has to be close to 50% now and with the later BOS and ORD starting in March it allows more options to connect from Europe.

[dublinaviator]

According to this article, 80 percent of Aer Lingus’ transatlantic traffic is now originating beyond the Irish market (dated October 2011):

Aer Lingus, pursuing sixth freedom strategy, seeks trans-Atlantic joint venture | CAPA - Centre for Aviation

Another interesting statistic, according to Aer Lingus' Annual Report 2011, is that 21% of passenger revenues are now generated from passengers connecting from inter-airline carriers:

http://www.aerlingus.com/media/aerli...Report2011.pdf

[Skipness One Echo]

I doubt 50% of EI passengers are onward connections.....however keen to see some hard numbers. That seems really high. Anyone have a useful link?

EI only sell 20% of long haul commencing from Dublin? Is that for real?

[dublinaviator]

Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo

EI only sell 20% of long haul commencing from Dublin? Is that for real?

Wouldn't surprise me tbh. In another article from March, Christoph Mueller said:

"We’re focusing more and more on the non-Irish consumer and shifted out ticket sales, from 55% outbound and 45% inbound to 45% outbound and 55% inbound."

[Skipness One Echo]

We’re focusing more and more on the non-Irish consumer and shifted out ticket sales, from 55% outbound and 45% inbound to 45% outbound and 55% inbound."

Doesn't that mean roughly half are Americans and half are Irish? Would be interesting to see the % boarding from the UK and Europe over DUB.

[dublinaviator]

Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo

Doesn't that mean roughly half are Americans and half are Irish?

That's network-wide, so long-haul is probably higher. So the 80% figure quoted by CAPA is probably accurate.

[Jamie2k9]

From a person who knows EI they have said that over 1/3 of T/A passengers per month are connecting however the afternoon JFK could have anything up to 80% connecting. BRS and EDI carry the most connections from UK and AMS and ARN the most from Europe.

[Mlinnie]

Copenhagen

Anyone know the loads on the first flight to Copenhagen today ? Surely a daily flight is too much especially In the low season and competition With SAS and Norwegian who are both well established on this route

[Skipness One Echo]

If they have such epic levels of connectivity, how is it that nothing works outiside JFK/BOS/ORD for them?

[CabinCrewe]

Does MCO not count ?

[Jamie2k9]

If they have such epic levels of connectivity, how is it that nothing works outiside JFK/BOS/ORD for them?

No aircraft until yesterday. Majority of connecting passengers are to JFK and BOS to a lesser extent. With extra ORD next year it allows an arrival at 05.20 in DUB to connect accross Europe compared to around 08.00 this summer. The departure at 15.45 is after all morning departures arrive back compared to 12.30 this year.

For it to work outside JFK, ORD, BOS you realy need a 10/14 weekly service to allow real flexablity to offer connections with an early arrival before 06.00 in DUB and departing after 14.00 otherwise its limited to the UK and Amsterdam and I can't see a new route being much more than 4-7 weekly which will limit it to UK connections which is why EI added the extra capacity to ORD and BOS next summer instead of adding a new route which makes sense.

Does MCO not count ?

It does but MCO is mainly UK connections as it arrives after the morning departures and departs before the european arrivals and its only 3 weekly.

From 22 May 13 US Airways to operate B767 to PHL replacing the 757. They normaly use a B767 between September-March when CLT is not operating.

[waffler]

I have seen Dutch, French and Italian pax on the Aer Lingus flight to Orlando as well as the usual British and N Ireland pax.
Dont ask me what flights they connect from though.

[PPRuNeUser0176]

Ryanair Calls On DAA Monopoly To Reverse Dublin Airport's Service?

causing severe stress and anxiety to passengers, some of whom end up missing their flights at certain times of the day.

Since when are FR so concerned about passengers? but then again its a go at the DAA and I find it hard to beleave that there have being 40 minute delays at security.

As we face into the busy winter period, Ryanair is calling on the DAA and the Department of Transport to address these abysmal service failures at Dublin Airport and ensure adequate staffing levels are provided in order to end the excessive security queues and delays at Terminal 1.

Is he taken the piss a busy winter when FR reduce flights..Never saw a press release from FR containing such bull sh*it.

[EI-A330-300]

Aer Lingus to unveil new service to US east coast - AviationPros.com

[Hangar6]

New EI service?

I read the article and can see EXTRA services but no new ones , EI don't serve CLT or Washington so maybe thats the new route or routes ?

[PPRuNeUser0176]

Just after reading an interview with Etihad CEO about there Dublin routes.

2 daily in 2016 with 787 due to aircraft availablity issues not until then
Expect a 85% LF for 2012
First month of Aer Lingus condeshare dilevered 500 passengers
EY route still very profitable

I think if they wait until 2016 to go 2 daily it will be to late and EK will benefit.

[ayroplain]

Originally Posted by EI-EIDW

I find it hard to believe that there have being 40 minute delays at security

EI, up to about two months ago I rated DUB security as the best among the airports I pass through, no question. However, since then it is by far the worst and I didn't know what was going on until I saw the Ryanair comments following the DAA's admission. (BTW, I am talking T1, can't speak for T2).

I can guarantee you that 40 minutes is not way off the mark. My worst was 37 minutes (I began to time it after the first time) and my best was 28. On both occasions only 4 out of 14 channels were open and I have never seen more than 5 open at the same time.The periods concerned would have been between 6am and 10am. I think you would have to agree that this is completely unacceptable.

The airport has always been plagued by this kind of union intransigence and it is high time they shaped up or are shipped out.