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I presume to start a west coast route from Dub, United Continental would need a larger aircraft that the B757. I wonder where would be stopped or reduced to free up a B767 or B777
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United/Continental will start to take delivery of the 50 B787 from next year and with a fleet of over 700 aircraft I think they will find an aircraft for SFO - DUB. I don't think they will take up the route but Aer Lingus will in time.
There would be high demand for RIX at this time of year. Many who go home for the summer will be coming back over the next week or two.
Aer Lingus and Flybe to pick up some of the flights as well.
There would be high demand for RIX at this time of year. Many who go home for the summer will be coming back over the next week or two.
(Holidays) Czech Airlines will not operate from Dublin this winter. Its not know the reason for the pull out but Europe Airpost will take over most of the routes.
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The Festival of Eid has already started, so I would expect an announcement next week.
Much as I am delighted that EY has been flying to DUB and has built up a good operation here, EY is still a minnow compared to EK. From a trade and tourism point of view, this is a huge deal for Ireland. Also, since the A330 is on its way out, EK will be aggressive in building their Irish operation; they will want it to be a 777 route asap (and that's 77W, rather than 772), then build it up to twice daily.
I do hope EY stays in the Irish market, but EK is the one we really need; it really should have happened ten years ago.
Here's to seeing one of these beauties arriving in Dublin!
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Much as I am delighted that EY has been flying to DUB and has built up a good operation here, EY is still a minnow compared to EK. From a trade and tourism point of view, this is a huge deal for Ireland. Also, since the A330 is on its way out, EK will be aggressive in building their Irish operation; they will want it to be a 777 route asap (and that's 77W, rather than 772), then build it up to twice daily.
I do hope EY stays in the Irish market, but EK is the one we really need; it really should have happened ten years ago.
Here's to seeing one of these beauties arriving in Dublin!
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Also, since the A330 is on its way out,
Not to put too much of a downer on proceedings, but given the outlook for both the local Irish and wider Global economies in the short to medium term, I suspect that the only way EK or EY will be going twice daily is if they start to sell low priced one way tickets to Australia.
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OK, I am sorry. I bash my head against the desk in atonement.
Now that we've established that the A330 won't be in the EK fleet forever, can we just move on.
What I am trying to argue is that EK's fleet plans are actually good for us. EK's 332s seat 285 seats in a two class layout; the 77ws seat 440, so in order to fill these, EK is going to want to market us pretty aggressively. That's just what we need. Sure, the economic outlook isn't so good. Some things we can't control; what we can control is aggressively expanding tourism and trade opportunities; getting our foot (very belatedly) into the door of the EK elevator is going to open many new markets for us and since EK has metal on the ground (not just a codeshare), it has the incentive to market us aggressively in all of these new markets.
Now that we've established that the A330 won't be in the EK fleet forever, can we just move on.
What I am trying to argue is that EK's fleet plans are actually good for us. EK's 332s seat 285 seats in a two class layout; the 77ws seat 440, so in order to fill these, EK is going to want to market us pretty aggressively. That's just what we need. Sure, the economic outlook isn't so good. Some things we can't control; what we can control is aggressively expanding tourism and trade opportunities; getting our foot (very belatedly) into the door of the EK elevator is going to open many new markets for us and since EK has metal on the ground (not just a codeshare), it has the incentive to market us aggressively in all of these new markets.
Runway length at DUB for a fully-loaded 77W >3000m. Granted, you certainly won't have a full load of fuel but they would be cutting a fine line if they are consistently putting on 440 pax and bags (which they would have to in order to warrant a T7) and freight plus fuel and reserves?
It will either mean they will pressure the authority to extend the runway or not bother with a larger aircraft. Personally I can't see the first one happening, even if it did runways take a while to build
It will either mean they will pressure the authority to extend the runway or not bother with a larger aircraft. Personally I can't see the first one happening, even if it did runways take a while to build
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Etihad are able to use a full loaded B777-300ER (412 seats) from DUB. The EK B777-300ER range from 354,358,364,427,442 seats so they would be able to operate them from DUB. Remember EK will have the A350 coming over the next few years so thats another option.
I agree with akerosid that EK are needed but I don't think EY will back down as they have a well established service and they are very well know in Ireland. Remember they have a maintenance base here to.
Lufthansa will night stop a A321 from end of October instead of the current A320.
Bmi early morning LHR will now operate at 07.05 with a mix of A319/320. (it was all A320 then all A319).
I agree with akerosid that EK are needed but I don't think EY will back down as they have a well established service and they are very well know in Ireland. Remember they have a maintenance base here to.
Lufthansa will night stop a A321 from end of October instead of the current A320.
Bmi early morning LHR will now operate at 07.05 with a mix of A319/320. (it was all A320 then all A319).
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Body scanner trials will take place from end of Sep. They will be for staff in T1 only, it will not be compulsory to use them. They will then be introduced to passengers pending the out come of the European Parliament decision.
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I'm not sure that the B777-300ER would have a problem operating from Dublin with a full load.
Remember it's only going as far as Dubai which is practicaly short haul when you consider the range of this aircraft. It would probably only require to have half it's fuel capacity.
The aircraft would be WAY under MTOW.
Remember it's only going as far as Dubai which is practicaly short haul when you consider the range of this aircraft. It would probably only require to have half it's fuel capacity.
The aircraft would be WAY under MTOW.
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But the Irish authority surely like the CAA would demand a minimum runway run either way - remembering that weather conditions could impact on take off and landing run - there will still need to be some kind of approval I'd suggest.
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But the Irish authority surely like the CAA would demand a minimum runway run either way - remembering that weather conditions could impact on take off and landing run - there will still need to be some kind of approval I'd suggest.
Incidentally, the B777 has pretty good brakes.....