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Old 19th Jun 2016, 22:56
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Is that reliable info as I have saw elsewhere that its not expected to them and they are usually a good source.

There aircraft shortage usually gets discussed on MAN a lot so can we really see them coming in daily when they are 4 weekly there and doing really well by all accounts.

I do have a feeling it will be somewhere in China all the same....
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Old 20th Jun 2016, 04:45
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Re the mystery carrier launching winter flights, what are the chances of a Cape Town route which was done before by LTU on a charter basis? Does this sound possible?

China has been mentioned frequently and as it would be aimed at business interests, where bookings tend to be shorter term than leisure, winter could be right.

Otherwise ( the rumour did not specify long haul), could be see Tap make a return to tap into its south American network via LIS or indeed Alitalia bringing a Rome route back now that it is in repair mode (doubtful) or AF on Strasbourg?

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Old 20th Jun 2016, 06:15
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China has been mentioned frequently and as it would be aimed at business interests, where bookings tend to be shorter term than leisure, winter could be right.
China announcements tend to first come from formal route requests on the Chinese side rather than hotel style events.

Long term rumours that TK were looking at IST - DUB - xxx. Not sure if that is still in play though.

Can CX do bolt on to a Düsseldorf or Gatwick I wonder?
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Old 20th Jun 2016, 08:43
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CX would technically be China.
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Old 20th Jun 2016, 09:19
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Mr pedantic strikes again.

Chinese carriers (from China) tend to announce their routes via a local route application.

Hong Kong carriers (From Hong Kong) announce routes via the media and via earlier leaks.
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Old 20th Jun 2016, 11:05
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It would follow the pattern of how CX announced DUS.
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Old 20th Jun 2016, 13:32
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Statement from the airline in question or whoever handles media:
A surprise route from Dublin from a major network carrier almost got announced on Tuesday. A room was booked in the Shelbourne Hotel. A time was set and a brief statement declared that “one of the world’s major airlines will announce that it is to launch a new daily service from Dublin Airport. In addition to strengthening Dublin and Ireland’s connectivity with important global markets, the route will generate millions of euro in visitor revenue, contributing to the overall Irish economy." Then it all got cancelled. The route is likely to be announced before the winter slot conference on Tuesday, or on the day.
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Meanwhile BA have yet another run in with ATC at DUB yesterday, this must be the third or fourth time now. Wonder will BA pr department have to respond as they did for the last one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFUZ6oHBft4
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Old 20th Jun 2016, 16:47
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Any chance it might be Singapore?
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Old 21st Jun 2016, 07:10
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The route is daily. Daily service is too much for CX, unless a tag-on.

What about KLM, Aeroflot or SN Brussels?
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Old 21st Jun 2016, 10:13
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Sounds suspiciously Chinese. It's on, it's off, it's on with a press release, it's off, it's on with Government announcement, it's off (slot issues) and then finally it can be booked with a short notice start date! MAN-PEK followed a similar thread and now also waiting for MAN-PVG. Maybe they're linked, literally PVG-MAN-DUB.
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Old 21st Jun 2016, 10:28
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EI CEO has said QR will start in May 2017 today!

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Old 21st Jun 2016, 10:33
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KLM x2 daily AMS with E190 from Oct.....

Ex DUB 05.55 (same as EI codeshare) and 13.15
Ex AMS 12.00 and 21.20 (same as EI codeshare)

That is AMS at 10 ans 11 daily. EI codeshare staying also.
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Old 21st Jun 2016, 11:32
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I'm struggling to see what KLM get out of that.

If they had come in high frequency and dumped the codeshare, it might have made sense.

This won't improve their long-haul connectivity, so it has to make a standalone profit.

If they were just looking for AMS-DUB point to point traffic, would Transavia not have made more sense?

Early preparations for an Aer Lingus divorce?
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Old 21st Jun 2016, 12:45
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Hub

Just building the hub. Plenty of early morning connections from AMS. So they might as well get in on the action themselves.
Also keeping their frequent flyer base happy with Business class seats and amenities.
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Old 21st Jun 2016, 12:51
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KLM will get people who get frustrated with the EI product looking at AMS as a viable connection point again – not least me!
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Old 21st Jun 2016, 12:53
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I'm not so sure KLM is related to the above statement
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Old 21st Jun 2016, 14:30
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Bravo to KL for relaunching the route. I always suspected that it was going to be WX operating on behalf of KL, but looks like its cityhopper

The daily frequencies gave it away that it wasn't going to be a East Asian carrier. CX tends to launch at x4 weekly.

There is a five hour turnaround in LGW for the CX 350. Space for a DUB add on?
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Old 21st Jun 2016, 14:40
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The issue with a CX LGW tag is that slots at that time of the day aren't exactly easy to come by at the moment.

LHR isn't the only London airport having spare slot issues. 0600-1200 is pretty much full in the summer for LGW
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Old 21st Jun 2016, 14:43
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Some management from Hainan Airlines were in DUB over the last few days.....

First direct air route between Dublin and China on cards with Hainan Airlines move - Independent.ie
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Old 21st Jun 2016, 15:02
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Of the Chinese carriers, Hainan is by far the best. I assume they would operate from Beijing as that's where they are strongest. Their long haul product compares favourably to European or American competition in its own particular way.

Flying from or transiting through Pudong is a disaster in comparison due to most domestic destinations leaving from Hongqiao and delays on most departures.

Hainan fly domestically from T1 in Beijing where many many years ago a Shannon airport company ran the duty free. I'm showing my age now.
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