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Old 2nd Sep 2015, 08:35
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It's not just Dublin, you have to go through security twice in SNN as well, first when you enter the general departure area and then when you go to enter preclearence section you get checked again.
It's been a few years since I have travelled to the US out of Dublin, but I seem to remember it was a 'reduced' screening after pre-clearance, in that bags and shoes were x-rayed but the other parts were not as thorough as a full screening. Has this been upgraded recently?

There are two reasons for the second screening.
  1. You have/may have had access to your checked bag, so they want to ensure that you haven't swapped anything that is not allowed in your carry-on during this time
  2. The original screening did not meet TSA standards, e.g. you did not have to remove your shoes for those that don't meet trusted traveller.

Remember travellers are released directly into the sterile area on arrival in the US. Anyone who doesn't do pre-clearance has to be re-screened on arrival. The double screening could be eliminated, but my guess is it is not deemed cost-effective. It would be a complete waste to create a full shopping area that is only useable during a small portion of the day. Some lounge space is fine, but most retailers would not like to have shops sitting completely idle for much of the day. It might be possible to 'upgrade' the main security to meet the TSA guidelines, but that would not solve the problem of access to checked luggage at pre-clearance.
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Old 2nd Sep 2015, 08:45
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Of course if this was anything more than "scare Joe Public presents Security Theatre" all passengers to the US would need to have their shoes xrayed. Of course at most airports, this does not happen and is therefore a security risk.
Or not.

Indeed there is nothing to stop the underpants bomber on most flights to the US from certain airports that don't have secondary TSA checks.
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 14:59
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Ryanair PMO–DUB appears to be cancelled next summer ...? No flights loaded yet
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 17:38
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Ryanair: 26 based aircrafts next summer and new route DUB-AMS from 27th October
Welcome to Ryanair!
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 18:01
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Nice to see some competition on the AMS route.

I had to get to Eindhoven earlier this year.

Booking about eight weeks out, EI into AMS was ~400.

I ended up flying into DUS which was half the price.
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Old 3rd Sep 2015, 21:43
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Does anyone know what are the routes Ryanair is going to drop next summer?
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Old 6th Sep 2015, 17:51
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From 2 November DL service to JFK will change from B763/4 to A333. A333 was scheduled back in March/April but lather replaced by B763/4 but now back to A333.

Of course the previous ATL change for S16 has been put back to B763 which is no surprise as it happens annually at this stage.
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Old 6th Sep 2015, 18:09
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They've been the only North American carrier reducing capacity from Ireland in recent years. ATL went from year round L1011 to MD11 to B772 to A333 to a seasonal B763, and JFK was 10 x weekly B763 peak season until a couple of years ago. 4 x daily AA and 4 x daily UA must have hit them hard?
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Old 6th Sep 2015, 18:21
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They've been the only North American carrier reducing capacity from Ireland in recent years. ATL went from year round L1011 to MD11 to B772 to A333 to a seasonal B763, and JFK was 10 x weekly B763 peak season until a couple of years ago. 4 x daily AA and 4 x daily UA must have hit them hard?
Indeed they are the only carrier to not increase capacity but contract slightly but that has started to chnge recently.

JFK overall capacity during winter will has increased during winter 14 and now winter 15, granted stopping ATL for full season in winter 14 helped that and increased capacity to JFK.

The 10 weekly peak season JFK only operated for one season (? - @most 2) and I think we may see the A332 or 3 stay around for next summer to JFK over ATL. Summer capacity to JFK is up this year as DL previously operated B767 peak summer and winter and B752 outside of this in the last year or two in summer.

ATL is heavily dependent on transit numbers and as capacity increases and new routes have happened they have squeezed DL on that front.
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Old 7th Sep 2015, 14:12
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August Stats

2.6 million passengers in August +15%

Europe - 1.4 million +12%
UK - 823,000 +18%
Transatlantic - 319,000 +23%
Middle East and Africa - 86,000 +29%
Domestic - 8,500 +7%

Year to Date over 16.8 million +15% (+2.3 million)

http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/at-...n_Airport.aspx

daa are expecting full year numbers to be around 24.9 million (+ 3.2 million).
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Old 7th Sep 2015, 17:29
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Will be really impressive if they get 24.9 million, would suggest 2016 would see 26.5 million at a minimum.
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Old 14th Sep 2015, 17:32
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Europe Airpost/ASL Airlines France have announced Paris–Dublin-Halifax will return in 2016 and will operate from July to mid October (July/August this year). According to press release the passenger split is 75% (Paris) and 25% (Dublin).

Paris ? Halifax : Europe Airpost renforce son programme transatlantique - Europe Airpost
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Old 15th Sep 2015, 16:25
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Dublin Airport is to spend an estimated 60m upgrading its existing runway and improving a number of other infrastructure elements.

"Recent studies have determined that the runway does not have sufficient structural strength for the projected aircraft movements over the next 15-20 years and a rehabilitation of the pavement is required," the DAA has told prospective contractors.

It added: "The condition of a number of other very critical assets in the vicinity of runway 10/28 has also been assessed over the last number of years. Through these assessments, it has been determined that the assets must be rehabilitated within the next two to three years in order to sustain airport operations and reduce the risk of a system failure."

The DAA noted that it finds it difficult to even locate spares for its critical but aging approach lighting system.

The existing main runway was built in 1989 and in 2010 was overlaid with a substance to allow for improved friction for aircraft. That scheme, which cost about 7m, had a design life of between six and eight years.
and also upgrading after Emirates requested for Q3 15 or Q1 16:

The works the DAA has sought tenders for also include the upgrade of lighting on the runway; taxiway upgrades; additional infrastructure for bigger aircraft such as the A380; and new signage.
Dublin Airport plans major runway works as part of ?60m spend - Independent.ie
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Old 15th Sep 2015, 17:44
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Well they better sort out legitimate concerns over aircraft noise levels before they start wringing their hands at the prospect of increased revenue from increased capacity.
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Old 15th Sep 2015, 18:17
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legitimate concerns over aircraft noise levels


Since when is that an issue, unless crosswind is in operation there is minimal impact on people as the path is restricted from residential development.
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Old 15th Sep 2015, 18:39
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The only noise abatement procedure I can think of in DUB is no turning jet departures over Howth below 3,000 feet at night off 10.

They'll use 28 when winds allow for departures due to A) It being the most convenient for the aircraft and B) The least populated areas being west of the airfield.
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Old 15th Sep 2015, 19:26
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Let sleeping dogs lie.


In passing did you ever hear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWg7IpphPc8

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Old 15th Sep 2015, 20:16
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Originally Posted by Sober Lark View Post
Let sleeping dogs lie.


In passing did you ever hear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWg7IpphPc8
Yeah, discussed ad finitum on the boards in work. Neither party came out of it too well. I imagine waiting for their numbers on ACARS is as annoying for BA crews as everyone else, I've spoken to plenty of pilots who have gotten stuck behind them at the holding point all over the world.

And actually having done a bit more research, there's no turning of jets off 10 allowed over Howth at any time at any level. Someone important must have complained! No mention of 16 though.....
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 14:31
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According to the Indian PM who visited for a few hours yeaterday he made a comment saying there will be a direct air services soon.

Visit to Ireland is short but historic, says PM Narendra Modi in Dublin

Will be interesting to see if it will happen.
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 19:08
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And actually having done a bit more research, there's no turning of jets off 10 allowed over Howth at any time at any level. Someone important must have complained! No mention of 16 though.....
Since 10/28 opened, SIDs have been in force which require jet departures to fly several miles before turning. Howth has been "protected" from the beginning, therefore. On 16, with the current SIDs turns start around the coast, subject to the aircraft being at a minimum of 3,000 feet.
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