DUBLIN - 2

[GCUFD]

Abolition of airport duty = FR introduces more flights/pax, EI to a lesser extent. If the duty is replaced by punitive DAA charges then FR/EI = fewer flights/pax

In fairness, wasn't the airport tax abolition about attracting passengers to all airports, not just Dublin. There's a balance to be found in any policy measure. But it certainly isn't contradictory to provide a general incentive, while allowing Dublin scope to increase charges, if necessary.

[ayroplain]

But it certainly isn't contradictory to provide a general incentive, while allowing Dublin scope to increase charges, if necessary.

Even if you were to accept this point, you would need to be sure that the authority responsible for calculating the expenses and spending the money is competent so to do. The DAA does not inspire this sort of confidence. Without going into older history even their last great project T2 was flawed. Every aviation professional I have spoken to (that includes ATC, airline captains and ground staff) say that it was built in the wrong place - all crammed into a congested corner beside the main runway - and that this point was made before it was built. (not to mention that the best they could do for passengers was seats made of cold, hard steel)

[Just a spotter]

Originally Posted by ayroplain

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But it certainly isn't contradictory to provide a general incentive, while allowing Dublin scope to increase charges, if necessary.
Even if you were to accept this point, you would need to be sure that the authority responsible for calculating the expenses and spending the money is competent so to do. The DAA does not inspire this sort of confidence. Without going into older history even their last great project T2 was flawed. Every aviation professional I have spoken to (that includes ATC, airline captains and ground staff) say that it was built in the wrong place - all crammed into a congested corner beside the main runway - and that this point was made before it was built. (not to mention that the best they could do for passengers was seats made of cold, hard steel)

All of which reminds me of a comment someone once made; Dublin Airport, it's just a shopping centre with air links.

That said, WRT T2, the location choices were somewhat limited. The horseshoe of existing buildings including the protected structure of the orginal/Central Terminal meant it had to either go there, or beside Hangar 6 to usilise the existing road infrastrcture. Faling that, it was on the otherside of the airfield.

JAS

[GCUFD]

Even if you were to accept this point, you would need to be sure that the authority responsible for calculating the expenses and spending the money is competent so to do

That's always the case. To be fair, up to recent years, the policy environment aimed to obstruct the development of Dublin Airport. It can be hard to disentangle what is down to the management, and what is down to that policy environment.

I suspect the future will be quite different. But I do agree, DAA will have to demonstrate delivery.

[EI-A330-300]

FR have backed down on the legal threat.

[Dontgothere]

Right, per this article, WOW air will start flying DUB - KEF 3x weekly year round.

WOW bćtir viđ áfangastöđum - mbl.is

[EI-A330-300]

As expected WJ confirmed increase 2015 schedule when they launched GLA>

http://westjet2.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=922

WestJet will also resume its highly successful service between St. John's, Newfoundland, and Dublin, Ireland, on May 1, 2015, six weeks earlier than in 2014.

[scodaman]

Incident at Dublin earlier this morning.

2 x Ryanair 737 clipped a tail and wing with each other.

Investigation at Dublin Airport after two planes clip each other on runway

[All names taken]

''Two planes clip each other on the runway''

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggghhhh......it's the apron not the runway. How thick are journos?

If two planes did clip each other on the actual runway it could be potentially catastrophic.

Other examples ''passengers stranded on runway'', ''fuel spilled on runway'' and on and on........

Apron people APRON

[EI-A330-300]

CAR have given the go ahead to a 19% cut in charges. Not sure we have heard the end of this.....

4.2% cut per annum between 2015-19.

[EI-A330-300]

September traffic up 8% with over 2 million passengers. Over 16.6 million year to date up 7%. Should reach 21.4 million at least for 2014.

http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/at-...September.aspx

[BCA03]

Ethiopia confirm Dublin 2015

Check the following link. I guess an official announcement will be made soon.

Ethiopian Airlines to Start Flights to Dublin and Los Angeles | Ethiosports

[Una Due Tfc]

DUB's first scheduled 787 service, at least the spotters will be happy.

[Cian]

They are a dry airline though

Nowhere close:

Ethiopian | Food & Beverages

Free booze in Y compared to €€ on EI.

I've seen people say that a few times and I've no idea where they're getting the idea from. Ethiopia is majority Christian not Muslim and in this day and age, even the modernised airlines from Muslim countries aren't dry.

[Una Due Tfc]

Thanks Cian. Previous comment edited. Is it due to stop here on the way back? Or will it be only stopping over westbound? I wonder if it'll effect EI's (excellent) SFO loads much

[EI-A330-300]

Stopping both ways for 2h. Feeding there hub is a priority and it indicates a 7.30 am departure to LAX and 20.30 departure to Africa. This equals a 1am departure from LAX so may bot be suitable for many people and 11pm from Africa. This times were suggested on another forum and feed there hub.

It would slot in well for USPC if the 07.30 happens.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by EI-A330-300

Stopping both ways for 2h. Feeding there hub is a priority and it indicates a 7.30 am departure to LAX and 20.30 departure to Africa. This equals a 1am departure from LAX so may bot be suitable for many people and 11pm from Africa. This times were suggested on another forum and feed there hub.

It would slot in well for USPC if the 07.30 happens.

What time does USPC open in the morning?

[EI-A330-300]

7am, first flight at 08.55 (08.40) in 2015 so opening an hour earlier would be needed for ET which I don't see a major issue with. Then again if ET arrived at 06.30 and left at 08.30 it would probably suit stand planners much better and wouldn't require changes to USPC hours while it wouldn't effect there hub feed just an hour less (5h layover) in LAX .

Guess we will find out next week hopefully.

[ayroplain]

DUBLIN/IALPA/DAA

Fascinating read here. IALPA's views on DAA's airfield (mis)management and future plans to close 16/34. "RED LINE: IALPA will vehemently oppose the closure of the cross runway 16/34 at Dublin"

http://www.aviationreg.ie/_fileuploa...31%20IALPA.pdf

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by EI-A330-300

7am, first flight at 08.55 (08.40) in 2015 so opening an hour earlier would be needed for ET which I don't see a major issue with. Then again if ET arrived at 06.30 and left at 08.30 it would probably suit stand planners much better and wouldn't require changes to USPC hours while it wouldn't effect there hub feed just an hour less (5h layover) in LAX .

Guess we will find out next week hopefully.

Let's see, but I've just this morning read this week's Travel Extra which says

Ethiopian will likely not use the US CBP in Dublin, in the early stages of the route at least, because it would delay turnaround.