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Old 5th Dec 2011, 15:25
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November traffic falls 8%

Ryanair Passenger Numbers Drop 8% as Carrier Grounds Planes - Bloomberg
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Where are the "80" parked-up Ryanair 737s?
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Old 5th Dec 2011, 16:40
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Originally Posted by LGS6753
Where are the "80" parked-up Ryanair 737s?
Principally in Stansted and Birmingham. Other places: Dublin and Charleroi.
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Not sure that it is the same 80 all the time - there is a rotation so the numbers sitting on the ground at any one place may change from day to day, as may the location
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Principally in Stansted and Birmingham
FR seem to prefer to park planes at BHX rather than fly them from there.....which means that BHX must have very competitive long term parking fees as opposed to landing fees. What a pity then that the eight or so parked up at any one time aren't used to beef up the stagnant FR route offerings at BHX
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MOL holding press conference tomorrow at BLL(Billund airport) New base??
seem to be a lot of routes in the booking engine that aren't broken down into 'countries' like other airports.
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How many planes will be parked up next winter when the economy will be just as bad, the oil price may be even higher.

I also suspect the length of the winter parking may grow from a few months up to 6-8 months. With MOL taking out more screenscarpers the PAX numbers fall.
We also have lots of risks like
  • end of Euro
  • a war in iran
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Old 5th Dec 2011, 19:47
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befree, here we go again . . . . . when will the mods take action?

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Come on, the amusement factor is worth it in a Chicken Little way.
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DUB to AGP

I am surprised Ryanair has reduced its Dublin/Malaga flights to 4 days a week for the forseeable future.
And, Aer Lingus are continuing to fly 7 days a week to from DUB/AGP.
Wonder what is the reasoning behind Ryanair's move?
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This morning Easyjet released its growth & load factor for November. It is growing pax at 3.5% and has 88.3% of seats sold. This is in contrast to FR who have -7.5% growth and only 80% of seats sold. FR is being badly hit by the downturn as it targets pax who had least money in the first place and are most cost senstive.
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I suggest that as with many routes where FR compete, frequency really isn't prime concern. Just being there will pull enough pax their way, and lower frequency means they can get higher yields - especially as the 738s have more seats to fill than rivals' Airbuses.

Ironic if BLL does turn into a base as we are discussing the BHX car park, as BLL is one of many axed routes from BHX.
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I think reducing capacity is as much about raising margin as anything, I'm sure people are getting more savvy in these times in the way of not paying for ancilary things. The newspapers and internet have ran many stories on how to avoid such charges. Recently Ive priced up many flights to Ireland and Ryanair is no longer the cheapest or most frequent, on a wide span of dates, although I know price can change like the wind.
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Yes, not just the flight or the avoidable charges, but also I assumed people then just went on autopilot to the car hire hotels etc. No way any savvy traveller would book a rental car with Ryanair these days, much cheaper to shop around, rather than rely on just one provider. At least baby use Car Trawler so you can compare deals, but even this not the cheapest by a long shot.
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Old 6th Dec 2011, 11:05
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Easyjet are starting from a lower point in terms of pax numbers and I think all FR are doing is taking advantage of their lower cost base to park aircraft to improve yield. Don't forget that a larger % of FR flight staff are "self employed" and only earn when FR earn ie when flying so flying an aircraft below the break even point in pax and yield term can make it cheaper to park it.

Jet2 bmibaby all have a % of their respective Fleets parked in the very slow months Jet2 don't have the Sharm market either this year. Boh baby & Jet2 have crews on seasonal contracts and this will likely grow over the years to come, there is no way that the likes of Monarch can enter this market however good the product, the low co's that park aircraft and their crews in the winter, without paying crews to twiddle their thumbs for 5 months have a huge cost advantage over any airline that employs crews on full time contract, again very shrewd as a business plan, less so if you work for them for part of the year.
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FR announced Billund as their 48th Base from March 2012 with 2 based a/c
Ryanair opens Billund base | Irish Examiner

Passengers (bookings) November 2011:
FR: 4.68 million
EZY: 3.82 million
gap: 0.86 million
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S12 Murcia

Is there a reason behind S12 Murcia flights being made unavailable? They still appear somewhat on the timetables page...
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UPDATE Ryanair CEO: Greece Euro Exit Would Fuel Tourism Boom - WSJ.com

Looks like he realised he can't get his hands on Aer Lingus...
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Was the travel tax in ROI scrapped in the Budget yesterday/today or any deals from the DAA metioned in it??
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I am surprised Ryanair has reduced its Dublin/Malaga flights to 4 days a week for the forseeable future.
And, Aer Lingus are continuing to fly 7 days a week to from DUB/AGP.
Wonder what is the reasoning behind Ryanair's move?
It was only 3 weekly for November, would not be suprised if it goes back to 3 in Jan/Feb. Remenber Aer Lingus is still the top carrier between Dublin - Malaga...

Is there a reason behind S12 Murcia flights being made unavailable? They still appear somewhat on the timetables page...
Taken off sale as FR are waiting for confomation if Murcia will be open next summer or not.

Was the travel tax in ROI scrapped in the Budget yesterday/today or any deals from the DAA metioned in it??
No, same deal as before if Ryanair and Aer Lingus add routes the tax will be scrapped, otherwise its here to stay.
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