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As I have understood it one of most important points regarding commercial internet sites is to make it easy to buy the goods with as little input as possible. This is exactly the opposite...
I really am perplexed by kind of unfriendly attitude towards customers - in this one and in many other small nuisances.
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Some new routes for LEJ (Leipzig - Halle) to be announced tomorrow.
At least these:
At least these:
BLQ - LEJ (2, 4, 6)
AGP - LEJ (1, 5)
PSA - LEJ (2, 4, 6)
Normally the new routes from Leipzig are Faro and Malaga
AGP - LEJ (1, 5)
PSA - LEJ (2, 4, 6)
Normally the new routes from Leipzig are Faro and Malaga
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Comment: What now for Ryanair after failed attempt to cut out agents? - www.travelweekly.co.uk
And back from Today if the above is correct info then it will be gone tomorrow.
Comment: What now for Ryanair after failed attempt to cut out agents? - www.travelweekly.co.uk
And back from Today if the above is correct info then it will be gone tomorrow.
Of course Ryanair’s distaste for travel agent business and attempts to block screen scraping are nothing new and it has fought and lost a number of court cases around Europe.
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Some new routes for LEJ (Leipzig - Halle) to be announced tomorrow.
At least these:
At least these:
BLQ - LEJ (2, 4, 6)
AGP - LEJ (1, 5)
PSA - LEJ (2, 4, 6)
AGP - LEJ (1, 5)
PSA - LEJ (2, 4, 6)
Rijeka should see new routes next summer to Frankfurt, Oslo, Brussels. Suposed to be 2 out of the 3.
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Delays in loading flights for Summer 12
Still no sign of BHX/GRO from April although the locals are saying it will be Wed/Fri/Sun.
Jamie-I am assuming the slow loading is due to backlog/GRO recent contract?
(can't be shortage of aircraft, if we get any more parked up at BHX they will be on the A45!)
Jamie-I am assuming the slow loading is due to backlog/GRO recent contract?
(can't be shortage of aircraft, if we get any more parked up at BHX they will be on the A45!)
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Dear ssflyer
Its planned to move the A45 : Some extra useage of the "Parked Up" A/C in the form of new routes would be handy - Please see OP's comments( errierrly accurate) re Pax nos re OCT on the BHX thread.
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Im suprised Ryanair has not gone down the Canadian affairs line, They from what I can make out allow you to pay to pick any seat you wish and if you dont pay to pick your seat then you get whats left ...
Ryanair could lower the advertised fare by a few £ or Euro and put a price on every seat, lets say £10 exit/leg room, £5 window, £3 isle and £2 middle, This would mean putting a seat plan on the web/booking page but I think it would be a good optional charge earner.
Also this would work well with passengers traveling in groups or with children, I think many are put off flying with Ryanair to holiday destinations as there is no real way of guaranteeing sitting together
Boarding would be in three parts
1. Infants/special assistance.
2. Seated passengers.
3. All others.
Ryanair could lower the advertised fare by a few £ or Euro and put a price on every seat, lets say £10 exit/leg room, £5 window, £3 isle and £2 middle, This would mean putting a seat plan on the web/booking page but I think it would be a good optional charge earner.
Also this would work well with passengers traveling in groups or with children, I think many are put off flying with Ryanair to holiday destinations as there is no real way of guaranteeing sitting together
Boarding would be in three parts
1. Infants/special assistance.
2. Seated passengers.
3. All others.
Fair point daz, but I think that to go down your route, which basically implies that every seat is pre-allocated, would entail a much longer boarding process than the 'new' Ryanair policy of only allocating seats on a selected number of seats.
Also, if I tried to book with Ryanair and then found that Mrs W and I could not sit together because only single seats were available, I might be tempted to switch to EZY, who state that they will try and seat pax together, regardless of any payment made.
Also, if I tried to book with Ryanair and then found that Mrs W and I could not sit together because only single seats were available, I might be tempted to switch to EZY, who state that they will try and seat pax together, regardless of any payment made.
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I agree, good point, so maybe sell the front half of the A/C and have the back self seating and if your not at the gate on-time you dont get on 
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What the story with Kerry airport as all ryanair flight are ending march 2012 according to wikipidea?
Looks the row with ryanair is settle at kerry as wikipidea have removed all flight ending end of march
Looks the row with ryanair is settle at kerry as wikipidea have removed all flight ending end of march
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The 10 whatevers each way is the most likely. They could have increased the priority boarding to accommodate those who want a seat, but this way they get more money without being seen to increase a price....
Presumably the same boarding thing will apply, except it will be the seat reservers first... In most airports with RyR in my experience the staff release the 'mob' pretty quickly after the rich and famous If they continue that there'll be some fun with the ones who haven't found their seats.....
Personally I will continue my regular policy - nothing extra for MO'L he's doing fine.
Presumably the same boarding thing will apply, except it will be the seat reservers first... In most airports with RyR in my experience the staff release the 'mob' pretty quickly after the rich and famous If they continue that there'll be some fun with the ones who haven't found their seats.....
Personally I will continue my regular policy - nothing extra for MO'L he's doing fine.
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I believe they held back on this project in order to keep the profits up after expansion has stopped.No point in having huge profits all the way through expansion but as soon as it ends,then flat.This way they can fool the share holders into thinking they can sustain huge profits even after expansion,Maybe I am wrong but an interesting thought perhaps.
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What's going on in Venice Treviso? Most routes previously on sale now are not (Ex IBZ or NRN) and others are pre-loaded on timetable section (NYO) but not on sale yet. Malaga, Barcelona, Girona on home page but not on sale.
Others are pre-loaded only (EDI)...
Goods news incoming?
Others are pre-loaded only (EDI)...
Goods news incoming?
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Ryanair announced today that it will base a 15th aircraft at CRL for a Summer season and will add 4 new routes starting in April'2012. These new routes are to
- Chania,
- Corfu,
- Rodez ,
- Memmingen
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"Ryanair’s million seat gamble" it's a title of an interesting comment just published by TravelMole. Here is an abridged version:
Generally I think it's not very wise to relay on just one sales channel, but apparently that's what MOL wants. The decision to self-cripple the most important Ryanair's vending place, their own website, by introducing Capcha, could become an important co-factor if sales fall. Later of course the source of possibly worsening indicators could be confounded and the blame laid on virtually anything else.
Steve Endacott, chief executive of On Holiday Group, warns Michael O'Leary that he might have gone one step too far in his ongoing battle with the trade.
"After years of ignorance, Ryanair has finally realised how many agents were booking their flight and packaging them into holidays, due to the heavy use of credit card surcharge avoidance techniques via virtual booking cards.
/./Although their move is highly logical, as they were losing millions in yield from agents avoiding credit card fees, the sudden price hike will clearly reduce visibility and sales of their flights. When you're earning £50 a flight on luggage, empty seats are even more expensive!
The second move has been to block agents compiling databases of Rynair’s flight prices by introducing a “human” question interface e.g. enter these letters, before a search can be launched. This is less logical in my opinion. It is obviously annoying to its “real” direct customers and more importantly it cuts off a distribution channel I really do not think Rynair understand the size of ie. dynamically packaging agents.
I would estimate that 30% of dynamic packaging was based on Ryanair flights and hence the sale of over 1 million seats on leisure routes has been put at risk. Low-cost carrier load factors and yields are under threat currently, because of the decline of their core “high frequency short flight duration” city route network, due to the current economic climate.
/./In order to drive market leading flight pricing, Ryanair is dependent on ancillary income and believes that agents who package its flights are denting their accommodation, transfer and insurance sales by offering the customers cheaper options than those available on the Ryanair website.
In some ways Mr O’Leary may be right, but in the age of the internet I think it is he who is missing the key point. It's really easy for customers to shop around online and, given their mistrust of the Ryanair pricing, they are likely to shop around anyway, which is probably the main reason his sales of ancillaries are relatively low ie. his site is far to expensive.
Therefore, in his attempt to cut out agents, O’Leary is taking a 1m seat gamble, that the lost sales channel presented by dynamically packing travel agents will be made up by increased direct sales.
However, will it? Unlike easyJet, I am not convinced Rynair has the brand values for customers to trust it with their holiday requirements. At the moment customers are buying their holidays from trusted travel agency brands and accepting later in the booking path that their “bus service to resort” ie low-cost flight, is with Ryanair.
Are customers really going to visit the Ryanair website and build their own holiday? The answer is obviously that some will, however, I think Ryanair will quickly see a large drop on sales on leisure routes and may have to come back to the table.
EasyJet when faced with the same strategic issues, decided that if it could not beat dynamic packaging agents, that it should join them by launching easyJet Holidays, whilst at the same time providing a controlled XML supply of seats to DP agents where they charged a £6 per flight fee for the privilege.
I know Ryanair likes to be a leader and I greatly respect it for it, but in this case Mr O’Leary you might gain more by becoming a follower and working with the travel trade."
"After years of ignorance, Ryanair has finally realised how many agents were booking their flight and packaging them into holidays, due to the heavy use of credit card surcharge avoidance techniques via virtual booking cards.
/./Although their move is highly logical, as they were losing millions in yield from agents avoiding credit card fees, the sudden price hike will clearly reduce visibility and sales of their flights. When you're earning £50 a flight on luggage, empty seats are even more expensive!
The second move has been to block agents compiling databases of Rynair’s flight prices by introducing a “human” question interface e.g. enter these letters, before a search can be launched. This is less logical in my opinion. It is obviously annoying to its “real” direct customers and more importantly it cuts off a distribution channel I really do not think Rynair understand the size of ie. dynamically packaging agents.
I would estimate that 30% of dynamic packaging was based on Ryanair flights and hence the sale of over 1 million seats on leisure routes has been put at risk. Low-cost carrier load factors and yields are under threat currently, because of the decline of their core “high frequency short flight duration” city route network, due to the current economic climate.
/./In order to drive market leading flight pricing, Ryanair is dependent on ancillary income and believes that agents who package its flights are denting their accommodation, transfer and insurance sales by offering the customers cheaper options than those available on the Ryanair website.
In some ways Mr O’Leary may be right, but in the age of the internet I think it is he who is missing the key point. It's really easy for customers to shop around online and, given their mistrust of the Ryanair pricing, they are likely to shop around anyway, which is probably the main reason his sales of ancillaries are relatively low ie. his site is far to expensive.
Therefore, in his attempt to cut out agents, O’Leary is taking a 1m seat gamble, that the lost sales channel presented by dynamically packing travel agents will be made up by increased direct sales.
However, will it? Unlike easyJet, I am not convinced Rynair has the brand values for customers to trust it with their holiday requirements. At the moment customers are buying their holidays from trusted travel agency brands and accepting later in the booking path that their “bus service to resort” ie low-cost flight, is with Ryanair.
Are customers really going to visit the Ryanair website and build their own holiday? The answer is obviously that some will, however, I think Ryanair will quickly see a large drop on sales on leisure routes and may have to come back to the table.
EasyJet when faced with the same strategic issues, decided that if it could not beat dynamic packaging agents, that it should join them by launching easyJet Holidays, whilst at the same time providing a controlled XML supply of seats to DP agents where they charged a £6 per flight fee for the privilege.
I know Ryanair likes to be a leader and I greatly respect it for it, but in this case Mr O’Leary you might gain more by becoming a follower and working with the travel trade."