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Old 12th Jul 2011, 11:29
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MAN-HHN is back :-)

Great news they are bringing back HHN-MAN ! Not yet bookable, but they used to have the excellent Sunday 6pm departure back to the UK. Good news also for HHN which had various route cuts over the past year (and local politics trouble).

Jobs boost as Ryanair is set to reveal expansion plans at Manchester Airport | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk

Maybe that was another reason why BE gave up on FRA-MAN, they should have access to MAN slot applications.
Same might be true for EZY starting-up SXF-MAN. SXF and FKB the only biggish FR places in Germany not to get a MAN route. Also they've then effectively moved TLL from EMA to MAN. Sounds sensible, though yes, I'd also think RIX and KUN would have been good ideas. KUN is already served from LPL, and RIX from EMA.
So, MOL, the German Airtax silently forgotten about, with HHN, NRN, FMM, BRE getting MAN routes :-)
Well, what to say from a BHX perspective. Not good news for BHX.
 
Old 12th Jul 2011, 12:04
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ASFKAP wrote, "Looks like I was right after all, MOL has decided to salvage what's left of his dignity and self respect and decided that it would after all be seen as a massive climbdown to go crawling back to MAN after his previous 'toys out of the pram' hissy fit......"

Thoughts now? Are you impressed that MOL puts business before ego?
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 12:24
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gone already

The new routes were on the Ryanair news page a moment or so ago but now the announcment has gone.....odd
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 12:26
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Bet Jet2 are "chuffed" about this, er not
I doubt they are happy, but it's not that bad for them. Only 8 routes I would consider in competition with Jet 2

Ibiza/Malaga/Murcia/Rome can probably largely absorb the competition, with maybe some minor frequency reductions. Jet 2 won't like losing their monopoly to Murcia and Rome though
Ryanair are at a disadvantage with their airport choice in Barcelona and Paris
And Milan Bergamo/Reus are hardly significant routes for Jet 2 at MAN
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 12:36
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I bet Jet2 aren't the only ones not happy, this will ruffle a few feathers with the other airlines too, I'd be pretty sure easy will be well pissed at this announcement along with Monarch and i doubt thomson or t/cook will be doing cart wheels either. How long before these guys start cutting back,or defering expansion? On other hand good to get another based airline, but one one wonders if its all about getting pax through doors and numbers up, Is it still a one bag rule with Ryanair at man, if so that won't help the retailers there. Pretty much see why Baby are leaving now.
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 12:52
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AirHumberside.

J2 most certainly wont like the competition on the Rome route...I know the yield and as they say. The worst thing about a monopoly....is not having one yourself !!!

Expect at least 2 or 3 airframes to be moved to other bases where the route yields offer a potential higher return.

Theres no point flogging a dead horse when it can still limp around in a different paddock

That's the great thing about planes and portakabins...the can be moved lock stock and barrel anywhere or just flogged on....Arthur Daley and Terry back in North London would be proud
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 13:35
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Ryanair to appeal ‘unjust decision’ in FACUA case

Ryanair has instructed its lawyers to immediately appeal what it believes as an unjust decision by the Seville Court of First Instance which denied Ryanair an injunction against FACUA.

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Ryanair to appeal 'unjust decision' in FACUA case | Canaries News
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 14:44
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does eny one know when ryanairs summer 2012 flights go on sale and does eny know if the humberside to alicante flight will be on sale next year
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 15:26
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Ryanair and Glasgow International are in talks about flights from there. They will not affect there Prestwick base.

Take a look:
Confidential talks to Michael O'Leary in his City shirt | News | Manchester Confidential

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Old 12th Jul 2011, 15:52
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Does anybody know if there is a way to display FR routes as a "timetable". i.e. I want to see what days of the week LPA is served from all the various end points on the routes to here. There doesn't seem to be any easy way to do this on the ryanair.com web site. Thanks in advance.
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 17:46
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Jamie2k9 - Wrong link? In both those videos MoL only talks about MAN. Did I miss something?
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 18:01
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Jamie I read that too but I take what MOL says with an extremely big pinch of salt. Apparently Ryanair have been "in talks" with Glasgow International for years but nothing ever comes of it. It could just be a threat to Prestwick management.
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 18:59
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surely it would be one or the other to fly from? could prestwick afford ryanair to dip there toes into glasgow? or is this just a warning shot to pik managment? if the went to glasgow how would the maintence work from pik?
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 19:13
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Ryanair and Glasgow International are in talks about flights from there. They will not affect there Prestwick base.
Likely true and utter bo*****s at the same time. Any move into GLA would have an impact equal to or potentially larger than the effect on EDI opening did. All the city routes went East leaving PIK with the "taking peely wally Weegies to the sun routes", mainly Scottish outbound routes.

Hence any GLA base would be a potential dual base in the beginning with a few choices,
1) move the PIK sun routes to GLA letting PIK wither
2) duplicate the sun routes at GLA
3) open new city routes in GLA leaving sun routes at PIK

Given Glasgow's legendary inability to make money on European city routes I would be looking at 1) and 2) with 2) being unlikely as they will be competing with each other.

Hence I have no doubt FR and GLA are in talks (again) the main reason is to put the frightereners on PIK who have no other traffic, they have no Plan B. Incidentally if easyJet were to move from the old international pier into the old bmi gates then FR would be able to park the five based PIK units on the old easyJet stands (4,5,8,10). I have landed from London on both gate 26 and 25 recently as this allows EZY to board an international departure from that stand. Hence airbridge served gates 26-23 would be an ideal easyJet operation.....
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 19:24
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skip, if fr were to go to gla, what do you think the future would hold for pik?
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 21:13
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LPA 'timetable'

"Does anybody know if there is a way to display FR routes as a "timetable". i.e. I want to see what days of the week LPA is served from all the various end points on the routes to here"

Log on to te LPA web site and look at the arrivals and departures. Then you can figure out where Ryanair go to and when. You can also see which flights are based a LPA and which are 'day trippable'.
Repeat this every day for a week and no time at all you have a weekly timetable.
Only problem is that it only gives flights for now - not far into the future.
But it may be a start.
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 23:38
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Which airports aren't Ryanair 'in talks with' in some way or another. BRR?
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 23:48
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skip, if fr were to go to gla, what do you think the future would hold for pik?
If GLA could make it worth their while to poach FR and give them the use of the old international pier at a discount, the terminal at PIK would be reduced to whatever sun charters they could put together for the summer peak and what's left of freight. Remember there's no need for the Navy to have the runway(s) and no flying at BAe anymore so should FR up sticks, I don't see how PIK would be viable as a going concern. They would become the Teesside of Ayrshire without the excitement of regular KLM (!)

Hence PIK will offer FR anything to avoid that, they can't afford to allow FR to go as BAA Glasgow will finally have wiped them out. Long memory me!
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Old 13th Jul 2011, 00:05
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Hence PIK will offer FR anything to avoid that, they can't afford to allow FR to go as BAA Glasgow will finally have wiped them out. Long memory me!
Hmm. Wouldn't this create some serious competition issues - BAA still deciding which Scottish airport to sell?
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Old 13th Jul 2011, 00:43
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jabird - as long as BAA do indeed sell one of either Edinburgh or Glasgow, I'm not sure why this would create competition issues.
Assuming either EDI / GLA were sold to a company that doesn't own either Dundee or Prestwick, then you would end up with up to 4 potentially competing airports in the central belt. Yes, I am stretching this a bit, but people in Falkirk can credibly choose either GLA or EDI, those living in northern Edinburgh can credibly choose DND and those living south Glasgow can credibly choose PIK

The only problem with this, is that there probably isn't enough room in the market for 4 separately owned airports to compete for the traffic. While London shuttle services will be unaffected, I'd expect EDI and GLA in future to compete very fiercely with each other, particularly for the sunshine routes and charters.

If anything, persuading FR to move from PIK to GLA is in BAA's interests, as any buyer of GLA would see it as a signal that PIK is in very deep trouble, and could be expected to lose further passenger traffic, effectively removing one competitor in the central belt, making GLA more secure and profitable, and thus drive up the price that buyers would pay to BAA to own GLA
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