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Old 8th Feb 2011, 12:33
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Is the Ryanair booking website down? I'm trying to book a flight and each time I click search, it comes up that a page is misspelt?

*Scratch that... back up and running again. Prices are up too!

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Old 8th Feb 2011, 17:26
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Ryanair have transfered all Venice-Treviso routes to/from Venice-Marco Polo Airport from Wednesday 1st June 2011 until Friday 30th September 2011 when normal flights resume from Venice-Treviso Ryanair - New flight offers

Fog Equipment & Runways to be upgraded during the 4 month closure period. http://www.veniceinfosite.com/2010/1...n-summer-2011/
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Old 8th Feb 2011, 22:19
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DjerbDevil: Now that's going to be an interesting bull fight. RYR claim that pax agreed to T's & C's when they booked their ticket. Andalucia will claim that RYR agreed to the local T's & C's when they operate out of their airports. Horse & cart or chicken & egg? Will Andalucia police this or will it expect a pax to complain first? Either way the feathers will fly. Is it enough for RYR to throw toys out of pram, or are those airports too big a prize to give up? I suspect the latter. No doubt RYR will be camped on the steps of the high court in Brussels. Will the matador blink first? If the bull turns tail it will have ramificiations throughout the whole EU. It's not just a storm in a small tea-cup. It could be the thin end of a big wedge for other seemingly trivial items. Anyone know why Andalucia has taken up this cause?
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Old 8th Feb 2011, 22:30
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FR will simply say no boarding pass, no boarding.

Nothing to do with them if someones forgets ticket.
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Old 9th Feb 2011, 04:01
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Originally Posted by eu01

I certainly prefer MOL fighting with... well, taxes, fees, politicians ("morons"), airports, other carriers, but do not like him fighting with trains. It resembles me Don Quixote and his windmills, sorry. TheAVE high-speed train will travel from Valencia to central Madrid in just 90 minutes.(...)

So called route planning strategy is seemingly not the the strongest point of FR. Possibly they didn't even bother to analyze the regional infrastructure development plans.... (...)

There is NO NEED to try blindly and with no expertise what happen if we start this or that arbitrary, what for? It can result in selling tickets for six or twelve months for just a few euros, reducing frequencies, losing money without any logical reason. Right, Ryanair is strong enough to afford it, but there is simply no need for it. Carrying out some research, not expensive indeed, could be in fact another form of SAVING real money.
Cited above is my opinion posted here in November 2010 after FR decided to compete with trains on Valencia - Madrid route, with 3 daily flights in both directions. Guess what? The route will end in March. Reiterating: "carrying out some research..."
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I remember reading in the French press a couple of years ago RYR trumpeting their intention to compete with the TGV Beauvais-MRS. The claim was it would 1/2 the price and that the pax capture area was the whole of France north of Paris, not just Paris. Did it ever happen and what was the outcome?
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Old 9th Feb 2011, 10:20
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Some new route announcements are coming today.
From what I can see from the Northern side of Europe at least this one will be (has been?) announced:
Stockholm NYO - Kaunas (2,4,6) from April 14th.
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ALC getting a new route to Brno and frequencies will be increased to STN, LBA, MAN and PMI
Ryanair abre una nueva ruta con Brno y aumenta sus frecuencias con Reino Unido. europapress.es
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Old 9th Feb 2011, 10:44
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Cited above is my opinion posted here in November 2010 after FR decided to compete with trains on Valencia - Madrid route, with 3 daily flights in both directions. Guess what? The route will end in March. Reiterating: "carrying out some research..."
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Then on the other hand CIA-BGY is, the last time I looked, the 2nd most profitable route in the whole company, and they compete against the high speed train and trains in theory in this route with 4 flights a day. I think FR have admitted sometimes they just try a route completely randomly and it sometimes is a flop and sometimes is a great surprise.

Where are the next bases or bulk of expansion going to be? Lot's of aircraft coming in the next year.
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Any new routes for Derry Airport
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Old 9th Feb 2011, 12:21
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CIA-BGY is, the last time I looked, the 2nd most profitable route in the whole company, and they compete against the high speed train and trains in theory in this route with 4 flights a day. I think FR have admitted sometimes they just try a route completely randomly and it sometimes is a flop and sometimes is a great surprise.

Where are the next bases or bulk of expansion going to be? Lot's of aircraft coming in the next year.
I've checked the travel time from Bergamo to Rome by train, it's 4 hours 30 min.
From Valencia to Madrid with AVE it's 1 hour 38 minutes.
Quite a significant difference. (my own small research )

There is at least one EU country where many domestic routes could prove a success. Poland. Last year I've travelled from Tampere to Gdansk (Wizzair) and then continued by train. Oh dear! The shortest travel time from Gdansk to Wroclaw was over 7 hours and back from Wroclaw to Warsaw 5½ hours. That's where a couple of bases should be created (should have been already). Next year they organize the European Football Championship there.

PS. And of course at least one base in Finland

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Old 9th Feb 2011, 12:50
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Thats the conventional train, there is a high speed option from Milan 02hrs:45mins, which is not Bergamo I know but it's where the passengers are coming from so it could be argued it's even easier for them to take the train:

Railway Gazette: Italian north-south high speed line completed
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FR will simply say no boarding pass, no boarding.
Nothing to do with them if someones forgets ticket.
According to the Spanish Judge there is a European Law, an International Law and a Spanish Law that state that an airline is obliged to provide FREE ticket and embarkation documents for their passengers.
So any action by FR going against the passengers lawful rights would increase their liabilities to the passengers and draw further actions and fines from the authorities and consumer protection agencies against the airline.
Andalusia has probably taken a lead from the Barcelona judgement and this will probably be followed by Valencia (Alicante) and Madrid.
It will be up to FR to get some ruling in the European Courts but this seems unlikely.
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Old 9th Feb 2011, 18:36
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CIA-BGY is, the last time I looked, the 2nd most profitable route in the whole company,
Its not the 2 most profitable route but it's in the top 6.
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Old 9th Feb 2011, 19:21
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Any new routes for Derry Airport
Sadly not yet. Fingers crossed though, the year is still young... I'm expecting passenger numbers to be up on last year for January. I think Flybe is who we should be waiting for too Stewart.
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New MLA route

New route announced by FR in the Maltese media yesterday to PIK.

timesofmalta.com - Ryanair launches Malta - Glasgow route

This brings the additional routes over last summer to 2, with the gain of EIN and BHX and the loss of BOH.
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 07:53
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There's no TGV through Beauvais, closest is "Haute-Picardie" on the Brussels-Lille-Paris line. If that's what was being referred to, RA is introducing Lille-MRS six days/wk from 14th April at prices that certainly compete with the TGV (which, incidentally, is gradually having it's state subventions eroded)
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Well, until they pulled out Jan 11, they were. The TGV has so many deals it is hard to say they were half price. A lot of people I know from Northern Paris used the. I think it is to be reinstated.
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Ryanair Delivers Online Lesson to Belgian Students
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Germany’s highest court says low airport fees for Ryanair may breach EU competition rules, Deutsche Welle reports.
Lufthansa and Air Berlin want the budget airline to repay millions of euros in what they claim are illegal subsidies.

Lufthansa and Air Berlin claim that Irish budget airline Ryanair is using its dominant position at small, regional airports to force them to cut their fees. They argue that this gives Ryanair an unfair competitive advantage. The two airlines want the Dublin-based company to be forced to pay back millions of euros in what they claim are essentially illegal subsidies.

On Thursday, the Federal Court of Justice in Karlsruhe overturned judgements by the relevant regional and appeals courts, and ruled that the low fees may indeed amount to subsidies in breach of EU competition rules. This is being seen by observers as an indication that Lufthansa and Air Berlin now have a good chance of winning.

Ryanair argues that is has neither sought subsidies nor received any. It said that Lufthansa and Air Berlin should lower their ticket prices and not waste money on expensive lawsuits.

“If these expensive airlines don't want to pay exorbitant fees to expensive airports that are already taking on more traffic than they can handle, than they too are free to fly to Frankfurt-Hahn Airport or Hamburg-Lübeck Airport, like we do,” said Ryanair.

Lufthansa is optimistic it will win its claim. “We expect that it will become more difficult for Ryanair and smaller airports to profit from illegal subsidies and distort competition in the air travel industry,” a statement said.

“We consider the court's decision to be a success,” said a spokeswoman for Air Berlin.
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