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Wider doors are just an idea for the COMAC design FR are giving feedback to. Wider aisles are also needed. The problem with the 737-800 are the narrow aisles, which dramatically slows down boarding compared to the A320.
I think this design will be fascinating once finalised...maybe COMAC will end up with 2 specs, a LCC model and full service model.
I can see inbuilt airstairs, wider aisles, more room for carry ons etc.
I wish FR would just rip out one of the rear toilets on the 738 and use it as a "hold" for all the carry ons....
I think this design will be fascinating once finalised...maybe COMAC will end up with 2 specs, a LCC model and full service model.
I can see inbuilt airstairs, wider aisles, more room for carry ons etc.
I wish FR would just rip out one of the rear toilets on the 738 and use it as a "hold" for all the carry ons....
Your suggestion of a mini "hold" is also daft. Someone in row 1 needs to go to the back to ditch their carry on? What would that do for loading times?
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1 - wider aisles dramatically increase the speed at which PAX board and sit as they can move past each other. The 738 is a nightmare for bottleneck situations...
2 - crew drastically run around during boarding locating spaces for bags in hatbins. Crew have to encourage all PAX to put bags under seats (in seats A/B E/F where they fit, the sizer at the gate is designed to be the same size as this space) as well as behind row 33ABC anywhere but offloading - offloading bags is not accepted in Ryanair...therefore an allocated space for bags inside the A/C would be invaluable for crew....
First hand experience....but of course as employees what would we know!
2 - crew drastically run around during boarding locating spaces for bags in hatbins. Crew have to encourage all PAX to put bags under seats (in seats A/B E/F where they fit, the sizer at the gate is designed to be the same size as this space) as well as behind row 33ABC anywhere but offloading - offloading bags is not accepted in Ryanair...therefore an allocated space for bags inside the A/C would be invaluable for crew....
First hand experience....but of course as employees what would we know!
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Really don't know where to start with this. How does the aisle on an A320
increase boarding speed compared to a 738? Aside fro having a few less rows, the
difference in loading time certainly cannot be described as "dramatic"
The time taken to board and disembark does go up the longer the fuselage and passenger capacity is, such as the longer 737-800, in fact for all sorts of subsidiary reasons it almost seems to go up by the square of the fuselage length, hence why those airlines with the 757-300 found that because of its extended boarding times etc it was really a stretch too far. The 737-900 seems to have had the same reception from operators, whereas the wider A321 does not seem to have suffered from this to the same extent.
For Ryanair, where sharp turnround is more important than passenger comfort in their management perspective, I am surprised this did not come more to the fore when they evaluated the A320 against the 737-800; possibly the additional price required was just too much.
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Give pax seat numbers; line them up in the correct sequence; board via front & rear steps in the correct sequence: "left right, left right, chop, chop. Sit down, shut up." Job done.
Do you think this would appeal to M.O'L. ?
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From Cyprus Mail:
Ryanair yesterday finally confirmed that it would be suspending flights to and from Larnaca for the winter period starting in November.
It said they would resume for summer 2013.
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while [the airline] is pulling out of Larnaca for the winter, it will be adding four new destinations to and from Paphos over the winter period; Chania Crete, London Stansted, Milan Bergamo and Thessaloniki.
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Last year the Larnaca flights ran all through the winter. To compensate for the hike in the price of fuel, Ryanair asked the Cypriot authorities to double the incentives it receives for the ‘promotion’ of its flights to Cyprus.
But last week, the Cyprus Tourism Organisation (CTO) said it did not have the money.
It said they would resume for summer 2013.
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while [the airline] is pulling out of Larnaca for the winter, it will be adding four new destinations to and from Paphos over the winter period; Chania Crete, London Stansted, Milan Bergamo and Thessaloniki.
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Last year the Larnaca flights ran all through the winter. To compensate for the hike in the price of fuel, Ryanair asked the Cypriot authorities to double the incentives it receives for the ‘promotion’ of its flights to Cyprus.
But last week, the Cyprus Tourism Organisation (CTO) said it did not have the money.
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The time taken to board and disembark does go up the longer the fuselage and passenger capacity is, such as the longer 737-800, in fact for all sorts of subsidiary reasons it almost seems to go up by the square of the fuselage length, hence why those airlines with the 757-300 found that because of its extended boarding times etc it was really a stretch too far. The 737-900 seems to have had the same reception from operators, whereas the wider A321 does not seem to have suffered from this to the same extent.
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UK authority is told it can continue probe into Ryanair's shareholding in Aer Lingus - Irish, Business - Independent.ie
Ryanair going to appeal again and Aer Lingus say they look forword to assitiong the investgation.
FR are becoming like BAA for appealing at this stage and then they give out about BAA doing it. Pot, kettle black.
Ryanair going to appeal again and Aer Lingus say they look forword to assitiong the investgation.
FR are becoming like BAA for appealing at this stage and then they give out about BAA doing it. Pot, kettle black.
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Cuts, cuts, cuts...
Finally the true image of Ryanair. Less and less profitable airline unable to find any other solution but cutting its routes. Well, you seldom kill a fruit tree by cutting off too many branches, but it can finally happen, beware.
Ryanair plans to cut half of its flights to Finland, completely giving up the routes to Turku for the winter season. The airline will also halve flights into Lappeenranta and Tampere in an attempt to improve profitability.
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Communications Director Stephen McNamara said that Turku is a summer route, which the carrier will abandon from the beginning of November.
Customers accustomed to cheap flights into Tampere will find the Ryanair service cut by more than half from 14 flights to 5 this winter.
The airline said that flights between Germany and Lappeenranta have also become seasonal, peaking during the summer -- and will trim its service as a result.
“This is difficult to understand because flights on this route have been almost full,” declared Lappeenranta deputy city director Kari Koriakoski.
(from yle.fi)
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Communications Director Stephen McNamara said that Turku is a summer route, which the carrier will abandon from the beginning of November.
Customers accustomed to cheap flights into Tampere will find the Ryanair service cut by more than half from 14 flights to 5 this winter.
The airline said that flights between Germany and Lappeenranta have also become seasonal, peaking during the summer -- and will trim its service as a result.
“This is difficult to understand because flights on this route have been almost full,” declared Lappeenranta deputy city director Kari Koriakoski.
(from yle.fi)