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Old 30th Jul 2012, 10:57
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although some smaller bases such as Budapest, Warsaw and Wroclaw are doing so at very low fares.
1. Warsaw not a base
2. Anyone prodict a closure date fro Wroclaw
3. Budapest don't think FR expected to be so hard to compete with Wizz
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Old 30th Jul 2012, 11:34
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NOT CONFIRMED

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Old 30th Jul 2012, 11:49
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FR will being closing all Laranca routes from October due to high fuel costs.
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Old 30th Jul 2012, 15:17
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Does anyone know something about the increase of the number of aircrafts in Manchester base for Winter Season 13?

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Old 30th Jul 2012, 16:33
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due to high fuel costs.
Wow, not anything to do with paying a market rate for airports or soft demand or maybe competition? Damn those naughty high fuel costs! I'm so cross now!

There's a whole song just waiting to be written about those pesky high fuel costs, mainly because any route closure gets blamed on "someone / something else".

Can anyone confirm just how many more B737-800s Ryanair are taking and split it by year for me please? Thanks !
Jethro's invaluable website Ryanair says a lowly 13 which feels low but if that's the number fair enough.

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Old 30th Jul 2012, 16:46
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THE decision by low-fare airline company Ryanair to scale down its operations at Alicante airport due to a dispute with airport operator AENA over the use of telescopic air bridges has finally forced airport bosses to back down and admit defeat.


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Old 30th Jul 2012, 17:30
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Easyjet are doing a lot better than Ryanair. Ryanair Load factor is dropping while Easyjet are charging more but getting full planes.

With 11 more planes the cost base of ryanair will rise but it is only expecting 4% more pax over the next year. I will expect they will be returning planes at the end of their lease and shrinking the fleet over the next 3 years.
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Old 30th Jul 2012, 20:14
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The documents released by Ryanair today suggest that 11 more 738s are due in the next 12 months. Then no orders are pending.

Looks as though the plateau has been reached (due to disposals), so a new order must be expected unless they are to stagnate.
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Easyjet are doing a lot better than Ryanair. Ryanair Load factor is dropping while Easyjet are charging more but getting full planes.

With 11 more planes the cost base of ryanair will rise but it is only expecting 4% more pax over the next year. I will expect they will be returning planes at the end of their lease and shrinking the fleet over the next 3 years.
Missed you when FR annuals were out............must have been nothing negative in them.

U2 on average carried 1 passenger per plane more in Q3 than FR but given U2s cost base is substantially higher and FR ancillary revenue is considerably higher then perhaps you continued doom mongering is just that.

FR already delivered €503 million in last full year so even translating at €1.25 its still £400m where as U2 only talking about £300 million.
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Old 30th Jul 2012, 20:43
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It makes me laugh...easyJet are doing better.

Both airlines are doing well. Both airlines are well positioned to whether the storm; Ryanair with its low cost base, new markets and flexibility to react to the downturn and increase oil prices and easyJet with its drive to chase the business passenger which sustains low demand in the winter period.

However you can say "easyJet are doing better" is pure bias without looking at the facts, 79 million PAX booked on flights this year. A considerably larger fleet than easyJet (294 RYR vs 213 EZY A/C...189 seats vs 156/180).

Both airlines are good at what they do. Let them both continue that way.
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Old 30th Jul 2012, 20:43
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Standby for the usual "because of high charges we are dropping xx routes from airport yyy, costing the region xx times 10000 jobs in tourism" etc. Normally comes out about now to get some PR mileage out of grounding 25% of the fleet each winter.
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Old 30th Jul 2012, 21:35
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Standby for the usual "because of high charges we are dropping xx routes from airport yyy, costing the region xx times 10000 jobs in tourism" etc. Normally comes out about now to get some PR mileage out of grounding 25% of the fleet each winter.
Have a look at pax numbers on Canary island routes next March and ask them how their winter has been.
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Old 30th Jul 2012, 21:45
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Lower cost base, 90% hedged and still on target for €400 -€440 million full year 2013. Wouldn't be bad to put that in your smoke and pipe it.
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Old 30th Jul 2012, 22:28
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Have a look at pax numbers on Canary island routes next March and ask them how their winter has been.
"our winter" surely. Bubbles burst, the next stage is seeing if they can make money in a mature market year round, something EZY have already succeeded in doing. FR are just about out of desperate, secondary airports to do over. BOHICA anyone? Unlikely.
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Old 30th Jul 2012, 22:53
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Skipness - did you really mean Bournemouth-Icabaru (border of Brazil and Venezuela) as a route ???
Admittedly Icabaru is not far from Canaima national park in Venezuela with Angel Falls and the Lost World tepuys that inspired the animated film "Up"

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Old 30th Jul 2012, 23:15
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BOHICA
Dear me no, I was reffering to whether the airports who got burned by MOL would make the same mistake twice.
BOHICA was a common industry acronym from Chapter 11 types standing for Bend Over Here It Comes Again . Deep breath....

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Old 31st Jul 2012, 07:44
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RYR Cyprus bases news

Ryanair about to pull the plug on Larnaca? - Cyprus Mail

MOL wants something for nothing again.
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Old 31st Jul 2012, 11:22
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Will ryanair have any routes left this time next year?!

On a serious not surely we will hear something about expansion for next summer to use up the spare capacity generated by these cuts?
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Old 31st Jul 2012, 12:44
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There may be some route news lather this week and over the next few.
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Old 31st Jul 2012, 14:00
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Ryanair - 8

I see Ryanair wants to have quicker boarding times by having double width doors on the aircraft . He seems to have forgotten the single width isles unless he plans to buy a wide body fleet . He claims a Chinese company will do the work !
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