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Thanks for pointing out the obvious Aircraftoperations. Logic that can be applied to practically every appliance or structure. But, I mentioned gates 23, 25, 27 as being poor and Roverman confirmed what we all knew.....they are 1974 vintage. Old by anyones standard.
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From someone who operates the airbridges everyday, the 'old' C-pier and similar bridges on stands 41,42 and 43 over in T3 are easily the better of all the bridges to operate. They go where you want them to go, are very responsive and are, on the whole, very reliable. Compare these to the more modern bridges in T3 installed when the terminal was expanded whose operation can be unpredictable and very unreliable. T2 bridges used to be the worst but were modernized about a year or so ago now and their operation are far superior to what they were.
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Good to hear Pier C bridges are still going well as I was involved in the construction of that area for my then company, what seems like a lifetime ago.
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Well, I think Emirates has firmly brushed aside the myth that MAN has low premium demand.
Hot on the heels that they will increase the morning flight to a B77W from A332, they have now confirmed via the booking engine that all 3 flights will now carry F class as of 1/9/12.
Seems its really paying off otherwise there would be no incentive to swap the HD 2 class version off the EK19/20 to a 3 class one.
Hot on the heels that they will increase the morning flight to a B77W from A332, they have now confirmed via the booking engine that all 3 flights will now carry F class as of 1/9/12.
Seems its really paying off otherwise there would be no incentive to swap the HD 2 class version off the EK19/20 to a 3 class one.
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If Dubai keeps growing then looks like we will be having a second daily A380 possibly?
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It's not a myth about F demand. It's still low compared to somewhere like LHR but there is some demand and fair play to EK. Total number of F seats as a % of the MAN market is still tiny though, let's be realistic
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It's still low compared to somewhere like LHR
The point I was making that even thought the proportion of seats is still tiny, to go from 0 to 46 seats is 46 seats more than any other UK regional airport!
What is good to note however, that Emirates are not just flying fresh air around. The EK17/18 has been arriving departing with just 1-2 seats in F and 3-4 in J. for the past few months. (I think max free seats in F on the flight has been 6)
F on the EK22 is sold out tomorrow, and forward bookings look healthy.
Also, published fares aren't that far behind LHR. £2380 at MAN compared to £2401 at LHR tomorrow for example.
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Where are all these F passengers going then?
Top ten key destinations over Dubai? SOMEONE must be in the know.
They would be key candidates for a non stop on the B787 if they can identify enough premium demand.
Odd all the F demand is going East, Is that an omen?
Top ten key destinations over Dubai? SOMEONE must be in the know.
They would be key candidates for a non stop on the B787 if they can identify enough premium demand.
Odd all the F demand is going East, Is that an omen?
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Top ten key destinations over Dubai? SOMEONE must be in the know.
They would be key candidates for a non stop on the B787 if they can identify enough premium demand.
They would be key candidates for a non stop on the B787 if they can identify enough premium demand.
-MAN will now have 92 F class seats to fill per day (and the ones on sale now are being filled)
-a report has just stated that 260,000 passengers going to HKG originated in the Manchester area, with 199,000 using London.
So, it seems there is still a huge market share to be taken for the Eastern carriers at MAN, and putting 2+2 together, Id bet HKG is in the top 10 for premium demand at EK.
Coupled together with the cargo already being shifted by CX at MAN, its interesting to note CX see no market potential at MAN?
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Thanks to everyone for the info on airbridges. As we are health and safety made in the UK is there a rule to say that an airbridge cannot be moving whilst the aircraft is lining up with the stand? I ask this because when I have been in Hamburg I see the airbridges moving into position before the aircraft is lined up? I know the Germans are vert efficent compaered to us, passengers seem to walk off the aircraft within 30 seconds, takes a lot more here. Last time I was in MAN for about 6hrs in September at level 13 and the AVP I noticed turnarounds were preety quick, everything waiting for aircraft before arrival and most flights left within 15mins depature time. LH turnaround around 40-50mins, I think this is normal for a european LH flight? Do we often get feedback from airlines ref ground ops whether it be positive or negative?
One last question the guidence system at the stands, I read a while ago that MAG were getting new systems installed at every stand (unsure if this was all 3 terminals) but is this still WIP?
One last question the guidence system at the stands, I read a while ago that MAG were getting new systems installed at every stand (unsure if this was all 3 terminals) but is this still WIP?
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If the aircraft is maneuvering onto stand, then the airbridge must remain in it's designated 'circle' until the aircraft comes to a complete stop and must not be attached to the aircraft until the wheels have been chocked.
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Assuming the aircraft is chocked straight away and the airbridge is functioning correctly, then it should only take about 20 sec to attach the bridge, so any time saving will be negligible.
I'm not sure about Germany, but there are airbridges that have a setting relative to the aircraft size that allows you to pre-posistion the airbridge before arrival, maybe this is in operation there !
I'm not sure about Germany, but there are airbridges that have a setting relative to the aircraft size that allows you to pre-posistion the airbridge before arrival, maybe this is in operation there !
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Stand entry guidance
Yes, MAN will move into the 21st Century with new automatic stand entry guidance systems from one of the leading suppliers. To be installed at all pier stands commencing in the Spring 2012 and completing some time in 2013. Stand 12 already has a Safedock system. The old AGNIS/PAPA and Mirror systems are steadily being withdrawn, with marshalling in the meantime.
We are all too quick to do Britain down about various things but in my mind moving airbridges around moving aircraft is just asking for trouble and the 'rush' to get the bridge on might just, one day, bite someone on the arse. Various gates are more difficult for positioning airbridges than others but generally speaking the time it takes to position makes very little difference.
I know Easyjet are red hot on OTP management these days which is why performance in this area has ended up being the best it ever has been in the history of the airline. Not least because Summer 2010 was a disaster in certain parts of the network. I can tell you that performance of handling agents is scrutinised on a daily basis at base level. To assist in this delays are documented, reasons why and with that comes a whole list of 'delay codes' which refers to specific reasons. Obviously when specific trends become apparant, positive action can be taken.
I know Easyjet are red hot on OTP management these days which is why performance in this area has ended up being the best it ever has been in the history of the airline. Not least because Summer 2010 was a disaster in certain parts of the network. I can tell you that performance of handling agents is scrutinised on a daily basis at base level. To assist in this delays are documented, reasons why and with that comes a whole list of 'delay codes' which refers to specific reasons. Obviously when specific trends become apparant, positive action can be taken.
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So why can't we do what the Germans do? A bit more efficent surley will speed up turnarounds that little bit?
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Not just Frankfurt, you should try DXB at night when flight can not go to terminals airbridge. You taxi for quite some time and then go down the ramp passed the terminal and keep going, if unlucky right to the end of ramp (passed Flower cargo terminal) then 15min bus ride back to terminal.
Not just Frankfurt, you should try DXB at night when flight can not go to terminals airbridge. You taxi for quite some time and then go down the ramp passed the terminal and keep going, if unlucky right to the end of ramp (passed Flower cargo terminal) then 15min bus ride back to terminal.
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When are EK getting rid of A330 on early morning flight as my crew on Monday were not aware of move to 777. Hope it is true as not a fan of A330 seats.
When are EK getting rid of A330 on early morning flight as my crew on Monday were not aware of move to 777. Hope it is true as not a fan of A330 seats.