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Old 12th Jul 2011, 16:45
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expects only easyjet and ryanair to grow at MAN next year.
Definately disagree with that. Monarch will definately grow (because of new routes) and Jet2 may also.
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 16:54
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I think MOL is right in all fairness, Jet2 is a masquerading loco. They aren't, really and will likely retreat from MAN a little over this.
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 17:39
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If there aren't 10 aircraft in MAN by S13 I'll be very surprised, 8 at a very minimum.

It's also interesting what he has to say about the charter carriers.

I personally see it as a good thing for the airport, the local area and certainly for Ryanair. It has been one of those subjects discussed both here and in the professional world for years and finally the two have met up.

Apart from MAD and arguably BCN, I see this as the best thing coming out of Dublin for some time.
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 18:02
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Good Luck to MAG for the Ryanair base, I bet this puts more pressure on the Liverpool base which from what I saw last weekend, wasn't exactly busy....as far as 10 based, I doubt it, more expansion but from cheaper costs based european hubs.
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 18:05
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MAN Airport have a habit of doing this, get in new airlines that will just push out existing airlines, I cant see Jet2 and Monarch scheduled doing anything but shrinking in the next few years now.
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 18:05
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Confirms there will be 6 based aircraft in 2013, up to 40 routes at some point in the near future, expects only easyjet and ryanair to grow at MAN next year.
Perhaps; but he also has predicted various airline 'bloodbaths' over the past few years, none of which have occured so I would imagine it is yet more scaremongering.
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 19:00
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MOL do such a thing......never
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 20:41
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I cant see Jet2 and Monarch scheduled doing anything but shrinking in the next few years now.
I don't think they will shrink, just we may just see the flights expand less. Both have new routes planned for 2012 anyway.

Maybe Ryanair, Monarch, EasyJet Jet2 etc will all grow this year. You never know. And also Bmibaby's pullout may have an effect on all of the airlines' routes
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 20:57
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To be fair, trying to fill a737 will WW's MAN routes was always going to be a hard ask in my view. They are mere small aircraft routes, they'd do good with the likes of flybe maybe, but not trying to fill WW capacities.
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 21:37
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Some of the WW routes such as PGF would probably work well on FR's larger a/c. I imagine 2012 will remain as planned by Jet2 and Mon, but with the overlap with FR I'm sure there will be reductions in 2013.
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 23:29
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A Scottish friend told me he was in PIK this morning for a PR stunt, and then flew down to MAN on a company a/c with no paying pax.

Sound plausible?
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 23:42
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AO - absolutely, I have seen him do it before @LPL - think he came from Poland. It might be more expensive than a private jet, but the key is to get the thing into any photo op going. MOL knows his costs & benefits and he has plenty of ac kicking around.
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Old 13th Jul 2011, 10:59
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Just a bit of fun to celebrate the new Ryanair Manchester base - from one Irishman to another

Michael O'Leary goes into a well known Dublin pub, The Harp, and asks for a pint of Guinness.
"That will be one Euro, please," says the barman.
"That's a very low price," replies O'Leary, ‘I approve’’
"Now before I pour it, would you like a glass with that, sir?" asks the barman. ‘’Of course’’ says O’Leary, ’’ how else would I drink it?’’
‘’No problem’’, says the barman, ‘’that’ll be 4 Euros for the glass, 1 Euro for the Guinness, and a 2 Euros Guinness pumping charge. Now would you like to stand at the bar and drink it or sit down? It’s 1 Euro to stand or 2 Euros to sit.’’ ‘’ Er….er…er… stand’’ replies O’Leary
‘’Grand, now how about crisps, nuts, paninis, lotto tickets or perhaps some celebrity endorsed fragrance to go with your pint?’’
‘’Just give me the fecking pint’’ screams O’Leary ‘‘I only came here for a fecking pint’’
‘’Ok let’s just review your order: 1 Euro for the Guinness, 4Euros for the glass, 2 Euros for the Guinness pumping charge, 1 Euro to stand, so that’s 8 Euros so far please. ..How about pre booking a taxi home ?’’
‘’Aaaaahh’’ screams O’Leary in desperation, ‘’Ok sir, I understand your frustration’’, says the barman ‘’but we have to do all this to keep the price of our Guinness at 1 Euro, people demand good value from us. Do you know some pubs are charging as much as 4 Euros for a pint of Guinness?’’
‘’I know, it’s terrible the way some other pubs behave, ripping off their customers like that. Anyways, how much do I owe you?’’
‘’That’s 8 Euros’’ replied the barman. ‘’What card would you like to pay with………………?’’

Seriously though good luck with the base
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Old 13th Jul 2011, 13:45
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FR schedule to HHN

MAN-HHN is now bookable, but the schedule is a cold shower: Tue/Thu/Fri/Sat departing HHN for MAN at 6:55, departing MAN for HHN 7:55. Which is therefore of very limited use as a replacement for BE's Fri/Sun weekend flights MAN/BHX-FRA. Esp pretty useless for people around BHX as it's not easy at all to get to MAN for a 7:55 departure, might as well go BE BHX-DUS Sat at 7:00 from BHX. Which might not even be much more expensive. Right, celebrated too early then. Maybe something more useful in the summer. LH (and 4U) shall not worry about this. HHN has a traditional very early daily flight (incl Mon) to STN, which isn't that much worse, as getting-up at 4:30 ruins your day anyway, so the longer train ride doesn't matter that much. About MAN-FMM, there the Fri departure is well-times (16:10), but no Sun return option, the first being Mon 20:30. So MOL thinks we can all just take days off all the time if we want to do a weekend trip. While nearly everybody in Ireland is jobless now, not everybody in the UK is, yet . 4U's schedule MAN-CGN is a good example for well-timed flights, even WW's EMA-CGN is quite a gift to e.g. expats and stag nights.
 
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New FR routes: what about OPO? Will TAP step in?

I'm pleased with the new Ryanair base and route selection, however I was suprised to see that Oporto was not one of the routes identified for summer 2012. This is clearly the next big thing in terms of city break destinations and is somewhere I believe EZY were considering for a while. If rumours are to be believed TAP are soon to announce 4 weekly MAN-OPO based on the sucess of the LIS route, if so I think this will be great news for MAN on top of developments so far this year as it will reaffirm its' strategy of building a varied selection of reasonably priced routes without putting too many eggs in one basket airline wise. Is there anyone who can provide an update on TAP's intentions?

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Old 14th Jul 2011, 07:23
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Good Luck to MAG for the Ryanair base, I bet this puts more pressure on the Liverpool base which from what I saw last weekend, wasn't exactly busy....as far as 10 based, I doubt it, more expansion but from cheaper costs based european hubs.
Liverpool second largest base in the uk you should have gone to specsavers Eight based aircraft and fifty one routes not busy??????????
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Old 14th Jul 2011, 07:30
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@rapidman47

To kind of side with the guys argument - so many flights is great for Liverpool but whether or not they were busy when the guy went is another thing.
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Old 14th Jul 2011, 10:39
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Based on Jamie's post on the Ryanair thread there maybe 3 based A/C this winter not 2
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Old 14th Jul 2011, 10:41
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No its 2. Mistake made.
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Old 14th Jul 2011, 10:47
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Jamie Noted. I noticed your post had been deleted from the other thread after I posted
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