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Old 5th Apr 2011, 16:12
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Pax figures going up" ... they're not
But they were for the 4 consecutive months before hand, and with a new LAS service, the start of the summer season, easter and Ryanair, I suspect April will be up once more.

Why does doom and gloom have to take such a front stance?" - It doesn't. But its existence does need to be acknowledged and taken into account. Exclusive reporting of happy stories alone is about as useful as a North Korean news broadcast
Yes but we have the 'news' to give us the doom and gloom, thats what they are in the business for.
Also, whilst not to the same, sombering degree of your posts, bad news has been reported on here, the loss of easy to HEL, the loss of MSE and the fact BD has reduced LHR and so on.

At the end of the day, its all very easy and well to speculate what will happen in the future, but, as seen as 90% of news is doom and gloom, and due to the circumstances you have listed previous, is it so hard to grant us our little bit of good news and happiness, as seen as MAN suffered so in the past few years?
As well as work, aviation is my hobby, and you are supposed to enjoy your hobby, but lately, its just 'depression, depression, depression'.

Sure, if services fail, or the situation dips back to constant negativity again, you are more than welcome to come in, but come on, surely a little light heartedness wont go amiss on here?
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Old 5th Apr 2011, 16:26
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A friendly consideration. This thread is about MAN. Do not be tempted to wander. If you must do that leave this one.

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Old 5th Apr 2011, 17:42
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Passenger figures

I do hope they are better than last April Wanna Be There as there was a number of days last April when no flying took place if one remembers!
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Old 5th Apr 2011, 18:01
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Air Canada/Jazz

Evening all,

Noticed a Jazz flight arriving at Manchester this morning, was not listed on arrivals on the website, wondering if this is to do with a possible resumption of Air Canada flights to Toronto.
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Old 5th Apr 2011, 18:02
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Re: Air Canada/Jazz

Just the Thomas Cook aircraft returning after their winter lease.

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Old 5th Apr 2011, 18:04
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Unfortunatly not berliner.

Thomas cook is leasing the aircraft to jazz, so either, its returning off lease, or, maintence at the thomas cook hangar.

On a seperate note, I see EK has an interlining agreement with BE to offer connections IOM-MAN-DXB(-onwards). I was aware BE codeshare with EY, but how long has this EK agreement been going?
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Old 5th Apr 2011, 18:44
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Old 5th Apr 2011, 23:27
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Is the return of cx pax service still on track for later on this year?
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Old 6th Apr 2011, 09:48
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A lot of the recent "debate" was sparked by the fact that March passenger figures were down.

March and April figures are always generally confusing because of where the Easter Holidays fall. Last year Easter was on 4th April and so the start of the holidays were in March; this year Easter falls on 24th April - about as late as it can be and 3 weeks later than last year.Therefore there is none of the Easter 2011 break traffic in the March figures.

It is therefore usual not to read too much into individual figures from March and April, but to look at the combined March + April figures to get a sensible idea of trends. In addition, the Airport's financial year end is at the end of March - and reporting figures therefore get skewed as some FY's can have most of two Easter peaks in and some times hardly any. I know there were discussions at some stage to change the financial year end to get rid of this issue but it didn't happen.

This time around, as compton3b has pointed out, April's comparisons will be distorted because of the volcanic ash debacle. No doubt this will complicate Olten Pete's detailed analysis of BHX! Hopefully MAN will do the work for us and give out figures with and without the effects of the ash cloud.. Can anyone remember how many days were affected? Certainly there were at least 6 days off (15th -20th incl) but I remember some other closures too - some of which were in May just to complicate the situation further.

And finally the proximity of bank and public holidays at the end of April also serve to make comparisons difficult.

So when the figures come out at the end of the month, no doubt there will be another interesting discussion

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Old 6th Apr 2011, 09:59
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Well Suzeman there you go, a lovely little project for you to have a look at whilst on the beer trail, mind you it might not make much sense at the end
or maybe it will lol!

By the way Kev had an interesting trip home Sea King/C-17/A330/A300

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Old 6th Apr 2011, 15:39
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MAN - ALC with Ryanair this winter will operate on Tues, Thur and Sat. No other routes released and will not be for a while yet.
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Old 6th Apr 2011, 16:22
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Originally Posted by A330ETOPS
Is the return of cx pax service still on track for later on this year?
No, there are no plans for CX to restart pax flts to MAN.
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Old 7th Apr 2011, 14:41
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On a seperate note, I see EK has an interlining agreement with BE to offer connections IOM-MAN-DXB(-onwards). I was aware BE codeshare with EY, but how long has this EK agreement been going?
Obviously not covering MAN for this long, but since at least October 2002. EK are listed as an interline partner in an old BE Winter 2002-3 timetable I have
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Old 7th Apr 2011, 15:47
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Airport City

More details of the Airport City are now emerging - this from today's MEN

Revealed: First look at Manchester's £400m Airport City | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk

As you might gather from the advanced state of the project, discussion on this has been going on for several years and was boosted by the announcement of the Enterprise Zone in the budget.

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Old 7th Apr 2011, 17:50
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Airport city

What is interesting is the completed T3 Pier with parking on both sides, do you think this is back on the agenda ?

And if you look very carefully you can see the metrolink underpass where it comes in from the old ringway road and drops towards the station. There is ongoing preparation (piling) at the station for the metrolink as we speak.
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Old 7th Apr 2011, 18:49
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it is an artist’s impression don't forget. Is that a CX pax a/c on T2 I see!
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Old 7th Apr 2011, 20:17
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it is an artist’s impression don't forget. Is that a CX pax a/c on T2 I see!
Yes, along side Biman, AirNZ, Thai Int B787 and a BA A380.
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Old 7th Apr 2011, 21:01
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I cant believe you've not pointed out the TWO AirIndia B777's in the corner !!

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Old 9th Apr 2011, 17:30
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Just being nosey on two slightly unusual movements in the last fortnight...

Was interested in the reasons behind the return charter to Peking on AB's A332 and the charter to Fort Lauderdale on LS's 757.

Maybe the latter was cruise pax or crew?
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Old 9th Apr 2011, 17:36
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The Fort Lauderdale was a charter taking Polish shipyard workers from Gdansk to FLL via MAN and YQX.
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