MANCHESTER - 8

[IB4138]

...and I've mentioned this before, T3 UK Border Control does not have an Iris machine, as it is claimed there is not enough space for one. It is far quicker to clear passport control, if you are a non-EU national. Utter disgrace.

[lexxity]

So if AF and BE are codesharing which carrier is moving terminals?

[spannersatcx]

codesharing doesn't always involve combining 2 flights into 1.

[hammerb32]

I know the rationale behind running JFK as summer only as it's primarily a leisure route, what I can't quite get my head round is why the service isn't offered around Xmas and New Year, the demand at this time is massive from m experience....

[Skipness One Echo]

I know the rationale behind running JFK as summer only as it's primarily a leisure route, what I can't quite get my head round is why the service isn't offered around Xmas and New Year, the demand at this time is massive from m experience....

American and also Air Canada shift a lot of their metal from East <-> West to North <-> South as the Carribbean holds an obvious attraction for frozen North Americans in the Northern Winter. This allows the aircraft to be used fully across the winter season and not just for the mental period over the holidays.

[AUTOGLIDE]

Not my experience on Wednesday. Arrived at Munich to find 3 booths open, and a long queue, just from our flight as far as I could make out, which took 15 minutes to get through. By contrast arrived back at MAN T3 at 2330, and despite a queue was though in under 10 minutes. Neither are a scientific sample, but just to compare and contrast....

The border control posts at MUC are sited in banks at sites all around the terminal, and I'd be surprised if only 3 were open in the whole terminal building - whichever it happened to be. However, with 3 booths it took '15 minutes'. At MAN, with the 3-4 booths on Monday evening it was taking an hour. I've never, ever, arrived at T1 without seeing massive queues.

I also really don't think that only queuing for 10 mins at almost midnight at a tiny 'terminal' like T3 is really such a fantastic success. Such low expectations are perhaps a part of the problem at MAN. I don't queue at FRA for ten mins at any time, even with B777/B744 and A380 pax all arriving.

The serious issue, is that the bother and hassle stops many people from flying. They frankly cannot be bothered with it.

[Mr A Tis]

My last visit thro Munich ( T2)was in July, OK for arrivals as autoglide says. However, departure was another story. There were no effective queue controls on the outbound passport control desks & it took me in the region of 40-45 minutes to get thro. I was early so OK, several others missed their flights causing further queues at the LH service counters. At least in the UK we don't have exit controls ( yet).
I can think of many places a lot worse than MAN. Truth is, it's a lottery, some days good, some days crap, and that applies anywhere you go I'm afraid.

[AircraftOperations]

MAN T1 certainly didn't have "4" desks last week when I flew in. All were open, and I think I remember seeing them numbered up to 10 or 12, plus the electronic gates.

[Ringwayman]

MAN-CDG

BE shows these departures for weekdays: 0615 (BE), 0645 (BE), 0940 (AF), 1230 (BE), 1510 (AF), 1735 (BE), 1945 (AF)
Weekday arrivals: 0815 (AF), 1015 (BE), 1100 (BE), 1340 (AF), 1635 (BE), 1900 (AF), 2130 (BE)

[Vuelo]

Any news on a MAD service from MAN anytime soon?

[The96er]

MAN-CDG
BE shows these departures for weekdays: 0615 (BE), 0645 (BE), 0940 (AF), 1230 (BE), 1510 (AF), 1735 (BE), 1945 (AF)
Weekday arrivals: 0815 (AF), 1015 (BE), 1100 (BE), 1340 (AF), 1635 (BE), 1900 (AF), 2130 (BE)

With AF operating out of T2 and handled by Swissport and Flybe operating out of T3 and handled by Flightsupport, anyone care to explain how this agreement will function as a single product ??

[Mr A Tis]

MAN-MAD even less likely now

With the news from Easy over at Liverpool that winter 10/11

• Madrid is double daily on Mondays, Fridays and Sundays.
• Berlin is double daily on Mondays, Fridays and Sundays.
• Barcelona is going back to double daily.

I guess that kinda nails any chance of a MAN-MAD service from anyone.
Shame the extra flights to MAD / SXF & BCN were not routed to MAN, but EZY seem intent to compete with existing MAN routes rather than start new ones ( eg AMS, HEL, MUC, HAM GOT etc)

[Cloud1]

Now even I am confused by the BE/AF codeshare -

ringwayman - where did you get that schedule from? I have just gone on to Flybe.com and its showing all departures as 'operated by Flybe' with a mix of Q400 and E195 ecolabels coming up.....no mention of AF operating any services.

[Ringwayman]

Very straightforward. You may notice that there are 2 sequences of flight numbers on the BE timetable (I don't see types listed on their online tinetable): those beginning BE31 and those beginning BE74 (that's when you ignore the current block beginning BE72 which end with the summer timetable). If BE is operating all, you would expect them all to be sequential.

Then read OltonPete's post in reply 390 in this thread which is based on the AF website and states that there's 3 AF services. Look at the times that's been quoted for BE operations and it's clearly demonstrated that the BE31 series are those for the Q400 and Emb195 and the ones beginning BE74 are the BE codeshares for the AF services.

[donnlass]

I dont know if I'm going against the subject but please can anyone let me know which Terminal/Gate the A380 goes from?

Is it the same as the regular 777 gate?

Thanks lots

[Ringwayman]

It's gate 12 at the end of Pier B on Terminal 1. Or gate 62 on the West Apron for the "privilged few" as happened this week!

[1station]

In reply to The96er, I am not sure how this can work as you ask with 2 handling agents, it may be the case BE or AF are looking at changing Handling Agents in due course. If this were the case I would imagine AF would be the one to move as it would be an easier shift than BE leaving their current agent.

[1station]

In reply to The96er and how the share will work with different HA's, maybe one airline is looking to change their HA shortly?

[Betablockeruk]

At last!!

Manchester Airport targets London rivals with cheeky advert campaign - Manchester Evening News

Game on!


Light the blue touch paper and retire to a safe distance

[MUFC_fan]

If it takes me all day I'm going to find the post where I said MAN would be resurrected one day!

I just have one question: they are filling all flights up at the moment anyway, so without the extra capacity, what are they advertising for? EK and EY in particular are flying higher and higher.

Also, could I just point out to all those doom mongers regarding F from MAN, EK seem to be doing swimmingly. Roll on 3rd daily flight!