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EK 3rd daily service from the end of the month, A330 morning flight. 
I think the sun's got to em. Is there really enough traffic for 7 daily flights to the sandpit?
I think the sun's got to em. Is there really enough traffic for 7 daily flights to the sandpit?
Interesting. Any link or source?
In Thailand at the minute and returning tomorrow on the EK19. Would have preferred an early arrival. Wonder how long it will be before it becomes a 777 of some sort.
In Thailand at the minute and returning tomorrow on the EK19. Would have preferred an early arrival. Wonder how long it will be before it becomes a 777 of some sort.
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EK 3rd daily service from the end of the month, A330 morning flight
EK21 A 0655 MTWTFSS B77W (3 class)
EK22 D 0925 MTWTFSS B77W (3 class)
Valid 01092011 to 29102011
EK19/20 also scheduled to be 3 class aircraft from that date, so to offer F on all 3 flights and reduce Y loads so to make the increse in capacity less drastic. 2 class HD B773 is needed on another route also, but EK have not specified which route.
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This all looks very rosy for MAN and good luck to them, but is this major increase in capacity from QR, EY and EK really sustainable and the impact this will have on others carriers flying East.
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Is it a major increase in capacity, EY is 2 x A330 which compared to 1 x 777 is an extra 100 seats or so. EK need more cargo capacity so maybe an increase in seats is offset by increased cargo carrying, plus I read that the 777 may have 1st class. QR are the one with the major capacity increase.
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If EK go with a 3-class on all three flights the actual increase in capacity is lower than one would first think.
Currently:
EK (1xA380 + 1x77W) = 1026 + 852 = 1878
QR (1xA333) = 610
EY (1x77W) = 756
Total = 3244 per day
Prospective:
EK (2xA380 + 1x77W) = 2052 + 716 = 2768
QR (2xA332) = 1088
EY (2xA332) = 1048
Total = 4904
Increase = 1660 or 51.1%
That is on the understanding that Emirates go all F and Qatar/Etihad do not. If they do, it will be a lower seat increase but then again they still have to sell a significant number of J/F class seats.
Still a large increase but not as much as expected.
**Figures taken from Seatguru
I'm sure I heard that for the airlines to operate most effectively they aim for around 85-90% load factor on average. That way they're satisfying demand and not losing business. I may be wrong but I guess that with all three carriers struggling to meet demand, not just at MAN but across the globe, MAN should feel quite honoured that they're all focusing on this airfield as opposed to others anywhere in the world.
Currently:
EK (1xA380 + 1x77W) = 1026 + 852 = 1878
QR (1xA333) = 610
EY (1x77W) = 756
Total = 3244 per day
Prospective:
EK (2xA380 + 1x77W) = 2052 + 716 = 2768
QR (2xA332) = 1088
EY (2xA332) = 1048
Total = 4904
Increase = 1660 or 51.1%
That is on the understanding that Emirates go all F and Qatar/Etihad do not. If they do, it will be a lower seat increase but then again they still have to sell a significant number of J/F class seats.
Still a large increase but not as much as expected.
**Figures taken from Seatguru
I'm sure I heard that for the airlines to operate most effectively they aim for around 85-90% load factor on average. That way they're satisfying demand and not losing business. I may be wrong but I guess that with all three carriers struggling to meet demand, not just at MAN but across the globe, MAN should feel quite honoured that they're all focusing on this airfield as opposed to others anywhere in the world.
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Manchester Airports Group profits fall; expects growth this year : Manchester Airport News Stories
He's certainly living up to his word so far...
Mr Cornish also outlined his strategy for growth, pinning his ambitions on a focus on long-haul international routes to destinations in the US, the Middle East, Far East and India, as well as attracting more low-cost services.
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3rd Daily EK
Third EK flight launching 1st of May. Available for booking now online.
EK21 3:00-7:55
EK22 9:40-20:00
Daily 3 Class 330-200 with 12 First, 42 Business and 183 Y
Totally of 1182 seats a day
26 First
160 J
996 Y
EK21 3:00-7:55
EK22 9:40-20:00
Daily 3 Class 330-200 with 12 First, 42 Business and 183 Y
Totally of 1182 seats a day
26 First
160 J
996 Y
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There is plenty of talk of EK loosing cargo capacity after the introduction of the A380.
Can anyone answer what the different max (or likely) cargo loads are for the 3 types that will now be operating for EK ex MAN
Just interested thats all
Can anyone answer what the different max (or likely) cargo loads are for the 3 types that will now be operating for EK ex MAN
Just interested thats all
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EK Cargo
From their print timetable:
B777-300, B777-300ER: 23,000 kg
B777-200, A330-200: 17,000 kg
A340-500, B777-200LR: 15,000 kg
A340-300: 13,000 kg
A380: 8,000 kg
The aircraft is capable of carrying app. .... kg of cargo in addition to a full passenger load.
B747-400F: 117 tonnes
B777F: 103 tonnes
B777-300, B777-300ER: 23,000 kg
B777-200, A330-200: 17,000 kg
A340-500, B777-200LR: 15,000 kg
A340-300: 13,000 kg
A380: 8,000 kg
The aircraft is capable of carrying app. .... kg of cargo in addition to a full passenger load.
B747-400F: 117 tonnes
B777F: 103 tonnes