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Old 15th Feb 2011, 15:01
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CAA provisional figurres putting Jan 2011 up 6.3% on the very snowy Jan 2010.

Wasn't the ash cloud in Feb so we can expect a large rise next month as well?
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Old 15th Feb 2011, 15:42
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ash cloud was april.
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Old 15th Feb 2011, 19:43
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Seems there's a few flights cancelled tonight as I've just noticed on the MAN arrivals board. Stockholm, LHR, HAM & DUS is what I can see, am I missing something?
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Old 15th Feb 2011, 19:47
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problems with Scottish ATC

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Old 15th Feb 2011, 19:49
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What's up with them? Bring back Manchester control! Is it a coincidence that 2 flights are orginating from Germany? Why are certain flights cancelled and others normal?
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Old 15th Feb 2011, 19:50
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BBC News - Air traffic control problems delay UK flights
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Old 16th Feb 2011, 08:30
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Was an ATC problem yesterday, looks like it is resolved.
Also there was a thread on it in SLF ( why it was removed from R & N I don't know)

http://www.pprune.org/passengers-slf...-feb-15-a.html
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Old 16th Feb 2011, 20:41
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Very large increase in pax numbers for Lufthansa last year - around 20% to 645,000 (imagine what it would have been like with no problems affecting them!). Will be interesting to see what will happen this year as continued growth like that will result in either more routes or bigger aircraft - what price bmi not having the "right" equipment in the appropriate configuraton for the Frankfurt route. 60% of their pax are connecting with Warsaw, Moscow, Vienna and Jeddah being listed as having good numbers. The UK as a whole saw a 12% increase in pax numbers with BHX being over 13%.
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Old 16th Feb 2011, 21:01
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With Lufthansa doing so well, it's difficult to understand why they downgraded the FRA from A320/1 s to B735s for the winter.
I know it's going back to A320 (BMI) in March, but that doesn't give any expansion options, unless they increase the frequency.
I think the BMI A320 would have been better served on a direct VIE route in co op with Austrian & the FRA left to Luftie who could vary the equipment on a daily basis.
I guess Herr Franz knows what he's doing though :-)
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Old 16th Feb 2011, 22:39
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With Lufthansa doing so well, it's difficult to understand why they downgraded the FRA from A320/1 s to B735s for the winter.
Er No. Usually the following
The overnighting aircraft is an A319/320
The breakfast time flight is a B735
The lunchtime flight is an A321
The teatime flight is an A319/320

LH do vary the types on a day to day basis according to demand but this seems to be the weekday pattern this winter. So little capacity increase this summer with the BD A320 on 3 flights and a LH 737 on the other

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Old 17th Feb 2011, 08:17
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Ah its changed again then. In Nov & Dec I was using LH to/from FRA alot, & all but the overnighter were B733/B735s.
Kind of makes my point though, that the BMI A320 will lose their flexibility on this busy route.
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Old 17th Feb 2011, 10:57
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Not really. If anything, using the BD 320 will mean that they have opted for the larger aircraft for the majority of the rotations.
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Old 17th Feb 2011, 11:49
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Not really. If anything, using the BD 320 will mean that they have opted for the larger aircraft for the majority of the rotations.
True but I think he was meaning that for the airline it is less revenue and profit effective.

For example, LH could have 120y+5C booked on a flight for which it would suit the Boeing jets more than an A320 as it would maximise the seating capacity much more. Also, if there was demand for say 150Y+10C (again, numbers out of my head), the A321 would be more appropriate. The same works for cargo.

This way the airline is fixed with up to 162 (all Y) seats and a set cargo limit.

Just my interpretation anyway.
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Old 17th Feb 2011, 12:04
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Balanced against BD pilot and CC rates versus German based Lufthansa mainline I wonder if that's the gain?
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Balanced against BD pilot and CC rates versus German based Lufthansa mainline I wonder if that's the gain?
It would certainly cut down on overnighting costs.

Obviously it also then allows for the other aircraft that would have operated the routes to open up new destinations or retire an ageing aircraft...
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Old 17th Feb 2011, 16:06
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True but I think he was meaning that for the airline it is less revenue and profit effective. 

For example, LH could have 120y+5C booked on a flight for which it would suit the Boeing jets more than an A320 as it would maximise the seating capacity much more. Also, if there was demand for say 150Y+10C (again, numbers out of my head), the A321 would be more appropriate. The same works for cargo.

This way the airline is fixed with up to 162 (all Y) seats and a set cargo limit.

Just my interpretation anyway.
But that relies on other routes and often it only works when the scenario's of 2 or more routes match. Sure, the flexibility is a good thing but it's only one side of the story and if the LH aircraft is needed somewhere else or if there are cost savings by using the bmi (and i'm not talking nightstops-this is often insignificant) then LH management must see it as outweighing said flexibility.
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Old 21st Feb 2011, 14:03
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Qatar Airways Double Daily MAN from 1/6/11

Qatar has just published double daily Manchester / Doha from 1st June.

would be good if it was the B777, but unlikely

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Old 21st Feb 2011, 14:39
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Qatar goes double daily

From June 1st : Daily


Qatar Airways (QR042)
Dep : 10:00 - Manchester (MAN)
Arr : 19:00 - Doha (DOH)
Equipment : Airbus Industrie A330-200

Qatar Airways (QR046)
Dep : 14:55 - Manchester (MAN)
Arr : 23:55 - Doha (DOH)
Equipment : Airbus Industrie A330-200
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Old 21st Feb 2011, 14:51
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Fab news, although I'm lead to believe DOH-LGW is being canx to allow this growth
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Old 21st Feb 2011, 14:58
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Good year for MAN! And we're only in February...
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