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In terms of other code F aircraft, the B747-8 is in that category and CX cargo have them on order. CX seem to send us the new aircraft and the MAN flights are well patronised, so they could send the B747-8 to us (I dont know which one it is, but a stand has already been marked up with a B747-8 stopline.
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Flybe Incident 19th August
I have been reading these forums out of interest for some time but have never made a posting. However as a passenger on yesterday's Flybe flight that made an emergency landing at Manchester I feel I wish to make a contribution. I hope by doing so I am not breaking any rules, apologies in advance if I have done so.
A few minutes after take off the cabin did begin to feel with smoke. As it became thicker there was some concern amongst passengers but everyone was incredibly calm and attentive when we were informed by cabin crew that the captain had sent out a mayday to Manchester and that we would be returning to land asap. Cabin crew were superb reassuring passengers and checking the cabin.
As I was sitting at towards the rear of the plane I along with another gentleman were briefed on how to open the exits on both sides of the rear of the plane. We then returned to our seats for landing.By the time we did land the smoke was quite dense.
The landing was fast but the aircraft stopped quickly turning a little to the left.
The fire service was alongside within a minute. We were then ordered by the captain to 'Evacuate, Evacuate! which we did using all 4 exits not just the steps. I know this because I used the rear emergency exit on the right hand side of the plane as did several other passengers.Once again the attitude of my fellow passengers was commendable.
I was very impressed by care of flight and cabin crew after the evacuation to ensure all passengers were ok.
After quick checks, head counts etc we were taken to an area which must be designated for such events. We were all impressed by the follow up care offered by the Manchester Airport and Flybe Staff. 25 of us elected to travel on the 1840 service back to Southampton. Six passengers who lived locally decided to return home for a bit of a break.
Some passengers whilst in the holding area did overhear that the smoke may have been coming from the cockpit but I cannot confirm this for certain.
Overall I was impressed by the handling of the whole situation. We were always kept fully informed.Interestingly most of the passengers who continued to travel were very positive about the airline and the airport. This goes to show if incidents are handled correctly and openly damage can be minimised.
I hope this reads ok!
V.
A few minutes after take off the cabin did begin to feel with smoke. As it became thicker there was some concern amongst passengers but everyone was incredibly calm and attentive when we were informed by cabin crew that the captain had sent out a mayday to Manchester and that we would be returning to land asap. Cabin crew were superb reassuring passengers and checking the cabin.
As I was sitting at towards the rear of the plane I along with another gentleman were briefed on how to open the exits on both sides of the rear of the plane. We then returned to our seats for landing.By the time we did land the smoke was quite dense.
The landing was fast but the aircraft stopped quickly turning a little to the left.
The fire service was alongside within a minute. We were then ordered by the captain to 'Evacuate, Evacuate! which we did using all 4 exits not just the steps. I know this because I used the rear emergency exit on the right hand side of the plane as did several other passengers.Once again the attitude of my fellow passengers was commendable.
I was very impressed by care of flight and cabin crew after the evacuation to ensure all passengers were ok.
After quick checks, head counts etc we were taken to an area which must be designated for such events. We were all impressed by the follow up care offered by the Manchester Airport and Flybe Staff. 25 of us elected to travel on the 1840 service back to Southampton. Six passengers who lived locally decided to return home for a bit of a break.
Some passengers whilst in the holding area did overhear that the smoke may have been coming from the cockpit but I cannot confirm this for certain.
Overall I was impressed by the handling of the whole situation. We were always kept fully informed.Interestingly most of the passengers who continued to travel were very positive about the airline and the airport. This goes to show if incidents are handled correctly and openly damage can be minimised.
I hope this reads ok!
V.
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It will not fly to LHR as they would/could not make the necessary changes to stands to handle it. MAN I believe said no problemo!
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AN225, B747-8 and Stand 47
In response to a few recent posts:
There is no blanket ban on AN225, it would simply be a matter of assessing the commercial vs. logistical issues of any specific flight if it were to be requested, and deciding whether it can be accommodated. The work done for the A380 does not solve all the 225 issues as the 225 is significantly bigger (larger than ICAO Code F, which is max. span 80m) and it goes to a different part of the apron.
B747-8F will operate into MAN for CX next year, gradually replacing the -400F as the fleet rolls over. Stand 73 will be modified this autumn in readiness for CX, with another stand, probably 82, to follow in due course. The 'November' taxilane will be widened by moving the roadways, to allow for the -8's larger wingspan. Incidentally, Stand 206 at T2 (recently reconfigured) is capable should a pax version ever arrive.
The NatWest airbridge is indeed from Stand 47, which is being modified to suit the fleet and traffic profiles now using T3. T3 now has much LoCo who are not so bothered about airbridges. 47 will now be A319 capable, along with the reorganised 44R. 45 and 46 have been withdrawn in the process. Stands across the airport will continue to be reconfigured as fleets and turnaround requirements change.
There is no blanket ban on AN225, it would simply be a matter of assessing the commercial vs. logistical issues of any specific flight if it were to be requested, and deciding whether it can be accommodated. The work done for the A380 does not solve all the 225 issues as the 225 is significantly bigger (larger than ICAO Code F, which is max. span 80m) and it goes to a different part of the apron.
B747-8F will operate into MAN for CX next year, gradually replacing the -400F as the fleet rolls over. Stand 73 will be modified this autumn in readiness for CX, with another stand, probably 82, to follow in due course. The 'November' taxilane will be widened by moving the roadways, to allow for the -8's larger wingspan. Incidentally, Stand 206 at T2 (recently reconfigured) is capable should a pax version ever arrive.
The NatWest airbridge is indeed from Stand 47, which is being modified to suit the fleet and traffic profiles now using T3. T3 now has much LoCo who are not so bothered about airbridges. 47 will now be A319 capable, along with the reorganised 44R. 45 and 46 have been withdrawn in the process. Stands across the airport will continue to be reconfigured as fleets and turnaround requirements change.
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Trip report 1/8/10-16/8/10
Recently got back from a 2 week Cheadle CC Cricket Tour to Barbados and felt it was good to do a report.
Flew out on VIR77 1st Aug stand 212, security very good and everything was flowing perfectly. Killed some time in Frankie&Bennys and some (eastern european - sorry he just was) drunken person chundered everywhere at the entrance to it, not a pleasant sight. Boarded on time but then had an hour delay due to a problem with how the baggage had been loaded (which must of been all our main luggage and kit bags section). Departed an hour late and then one of my teammates main luggage didn't turn up, turns out it didn't get on the flight but it arrived a few days later.
Flew back on VIR78 15th/16th Aug, turned up to BGI 4hrs early due to not been able to book in groups so we got there early to sort it out. Flight out delayed by 30 minutes due to the aircraft's APU not working which meant running eng no.4 for a while before we got going. Flight back ok, arrived at 9:40am, security queue was VERY long at T2, but thankfully I have an e-passport so only waited a few mins, I had done it before so quick scan and walla! through! went through to baggage claim, our bags took VERY long to get through because we were first to get our bags on the flight, we waited a good 30-40minutes before ours came through. Then a MASSIVE queue to go through customs, we had to queue from our carousel (01), police sniffer dogs were there (im sure the stench of our cricket shirts probably scared them) and then we finally got through. It took us nearly 2hrs from landing to leaving the airport. Security wasn't too bad for e-passport people but for others it was very long although it was fully staffed! After customs waited a few mins for a taxi, very well organised with the person informing us of who's next etc and then arrived back in Withington 15 mins after that!
Not too bad at all tbh seen as it was a very busy morning that we arrived on. A great 2 weeks of sun, beach, sea, pool, clubbing, vast amounts of alcohol and the occasional cricket game
Stand 12 had one airbridge installed but it was right down to the ground so not sure of it's status. Everything else not too bad!
Flew out on VIR77 1st Aug stand 212, security very good and everything was flowing perfectly. Killed some time in Frankie&Bennys and some (eastern european - sorry he just was) drunken person chundered everywhere at the entrance to it, not a pleasant sight. Boarded on time but then had an hour delay due to a problem with how the baggage had been loaded (which must of been all our main luggage and kit bags section). Departed an hour late and then one of my teammates main luggage didn't turn up, turns out it didn't get on the flight but it arrived a few days later.
Flew back on VIR78 15th/16th Aug, turned up to BGI 4hrs early due to not been able to book in groups so we got there early to sort it out. Flight out delayed by 30 minutes due to the aircraft's APU not working which meant running eng no.4 for a while before we got going. Flight back ok, arrived at 9:40am, security queue was VERY long at T2, but thankfully I have an e-passport so only waited a few mins, I had done it before so quick scan and walla! through! went through to baggage claim, our bags took VERY long to get through because we were first to get our bags on the flight, we waited a good 30-40minutes before ours came through. Then a MASSIVE queue to go through customs, we had to queue from our carousel (01), police sniffer dogs were there (im sure the stench of our cricket shirts probably scared them) and then we finally got through. It took us nearly 2hrs from landing to leaving the airport. Security wasn't too bad for e-passport people but for others it was very long although it was fully staffed! After customs waited a few mins for a taxi, very well organised with the person informing us of who's next etc and then arrived back in Withington 15 mins after that!
Not too bad at all tbh seen as it was a very busy morning that we arrived on. A great 2 weeks of sun, beach, sea, pool, clubbing, vast amounts of alcohol and the occasional cricket game
Stand 12 had one airbridge installed but it was right down to the ground so not sure of it's status. Everything else not too bad!
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Great post vectisman, Glad your ok, I dont me to be too harsh but I find this very hard to believe, Captain telling passengers that they are in great danger over the PA? Maybe inform them about going back to MAN maybe, but telling them of a mayday! Everyone remaining calm with dense smoke!( If it was electical smoke people would be finding it hard to breath) This post looks like PR spin to me! Maybe some airline managers are keeping an eye on this site after all LOL. This sounds like a serious incident. Well done to all the people involved. If I'm wrong about this your post appologies. But I'm reading the red writing at the bottom of every page on pprune making my opinion! Flybe crew deserve more money than there peers in PR if i'm right.
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Response to liffy2A
Dear liffya2
Further to your comments I would like to make a few reponses.
1) I have never been employed in any sector of the aviation business.
2) I abhor all types of spin in whatever guise.
3) The Captain never told us we were in 'great danger'. We were informed by cabin crew that a mayday had been sent and that we were returning to Manchester. I think most passengers were just grateful that something was being done.
4) I can say categorically there was no obvious panic. Of course people were concerned but responded appropriately. I accept that this may not always be the case but on August 19th people were sensible.
5) I contributed the post in all good faith to give my viewpoint on the incident as I happened to be a passenger on the flight.
6) I am completely unaware of the internal politics of any airline. I am simply one of those people who pays my money and travels with an airline that happens to fly to where I want to go.
7) I also just wanted to show my appreciation to all who helped out on Thursday. Its great to still be able to enjoy life!!
Im now off to have a great weekend. I hope you have a good one too.
V.
Further to your comments I would like to make a few reponses.
1) I have never been employed in any sector of the aviation business.
2) I abhor all types of spin in whatever guise.
3) The Captain never told us we were in 'great danger'. We were informed by cabin crew that a mayday had been sent and that we were returning to Manchester. I think most passengers were just grateful that something was being done.
4) I can say categorically there was no obvious panic. Of course people were concerned but responded appropriately. I accept that this may not always be the case but on August 19th people were sensible.
5) I contributed the post in all good faith to give my viewpoint on the incident as I happened to be a passenger on the flight.
6) I am completely unaware of the internal politics of any airline. I am simply one of those people who pays my money and travels with an airline that happens to fly to where I want to go.
7) I also just wanted to show my appreciation to all who helped out on Thursday. Its great to still be able to enjoy life!!
Im now off to have a great weekend. I hope you have a good one too.
V.
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Vman,
Welcome to proon, and thanks for the post. As you have already discovered, some people are either too stupid or too lazy to read what actually gets posted, so don't feel you need to defend yourself or your post. It's one of the dubious 'joys' of the internet.
Glad it all turned out OK for all involved.
Welcome to proon, and thanks for the post. As you have already discovered, some people are either too stupid or too lazy to read what actually gets posted, so don't feel you need to defend yourself or your post. It's one of the dubious 'joys' of the internet.
Glad it all turned out OK for all involved.