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Old 9th Feb 2011, 19:42
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Good to see a route increasing so soon after they announced it!

Now, if only we could get MAD up to daily....
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Old 9th Feb 2011, 20:01
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and hot on the heels of the MAN-ALC expansion, Ryanair are adding a 5 weekly PMI:

Ryanair Adds To Its Manchester Network :: Routesonline
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Old 9th Feb 2011, 20:35
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And I guess that it will be operated with an aircraft coming from Alicante, as Alicante - Palma de Mallorca also increases 5 times/week.
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Old 9th Feb 2011, 20:37
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Its hard to say until the times are published. At this stage, it may be co-incidental as PMI is also a base.
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Old 9th Feb 2011, 20:50
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.........Ryanair adding flights so soon!!...........Let the battle commence!!..............
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Old 9th Feb 2011, 21:20
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By added the above services they will meet there 600,000 passengers. Ryanair do this with all airports. A Palma base has long been on the cards and it's only a matter of time before it opens. I would expect Malaga to be added next.

PMI will most lightly be operated by ALC based aircraft. That would justify the 10 a/c for ALC and the increased flights to Leeds, Stansted etc.
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 09:14
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Malaga Base?

Correct me if I man wrong Jamie but I thought Ryanair had a base at Malaga. They are now the largest operator at the airport re number of passengers, and seem to have a number of aircraft parked overnight. Your comments please sir.
On another point it will be interesting to see if all the extra flights now put on sale to various parts of Spain and its islands from the UK will cause over capacity on the routes and will result in some very cheap fares. Plus the boarding card issue is still to be resolved. The regional government here in Andalusia do not pussy foot around I can tell you which may surprise some people.
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 16:31
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Ryanair have 4 a/c based in Malaga but I ment Palma as a new base.

I think it's only a matter of time before Malaga as a route is added.

ALC will be daily with 2 flights on Fri and Sat. (error with the extra flights on FRI and SAT - inbound times should be changed tomorrow)
PMI - everyday except MON and FRI.
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Old 11th Feb 2011, 14:47
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PIA Strike

PIA709 from LHE and PIA701 from ISB are both showing as cancelled on Manchester arrivals today. This is due to the ongoing strike at PIA which began on Tuesday. Staff are calling for the sacking of Managing Director Aijaz Haroon, and for the abandonment of the proposed codeshare / partnership with THY Turkish Airlines. This has the makings of a lengthy and damaging dispute.

Air Blue is operating normally; ABQ220 is showing on time from Islamabad this evening.
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Old 12th Feb 2011, 09:58
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Berlin/ Vienna services?

Some talk around christmas regarding WW to SFX and OS to Vienna. Anybody know whether these are likely to come off soon? Thanks, DomyDom
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Old 12th Feb 2011, 12:30
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Some talk around christmas regarding WW to SFX and OS to Vienna. Anybody know whether these are likely to come off soon? Thanks, DomyDom
If bmibaby are wanting to go on the SXF route, they need to do it fast. They just keep on letting other airlines stealing their chances, in this case most likely EZY would most likely take up the route.
In my opinion it's not going to happen anytime soon. From what has been said directly from bmibabys MD, ''no further routes will be added this summer... no further expansion (in terms of A/C) until atleast summer 2012'' would mean a reduction in frequency or a culling of another route.
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Old 12th Feb 2011, 12:43
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The baby route to SXF is a weird one. German slots show baby applied for MAN-SXF, they were accepted and released, but I spoke to someone from bmi baby last week and they denied they even applied for slots and had no interest in the route?!?!

I've heard another airline is looking at the route now, so bmi baby looks like it may be about to loose out again.

On another note, it seems PK to JFK is here to stay as the TK looks to be off
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Old 12th Feb 2011, 14:10
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VIE

Don't know where the OS VIE rumour started, but when I contacted Austrian only last year, they made it clear they had no plans to return to MAN.
If anything, it maybe another opportunity for BMI, similar to the BSL set up (?)
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Old 12th Feb 2011, 19:06
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Man-Mad

I find it very difficult to believe that Man cannot support a daily flight to Madrid. Dublin has up to 4 daily with EI, IB and FR. Manchester and its catchment area have a much bigger population than Dublin. Maybe given the BA/IB merger, IB might begin a service which could tap into the transfer market to the Americas and Africa??
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Old 12th Feb 2011, 20:14
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MAN-MAD

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Manchester could possibly support a daily Madrid IF Easyjet weren't flying 10 times a week from Liverpool.
With the 4 RYR flights from MAN = 14 flights a week from MAN/LPL more than covers it.
As for South America connections the new TAP service to LIS has that covered.
BA/IB not interested in the UK regions.
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Old 12th Feb 2011, 21:20
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You look at the TP website, and it's got the MAN route with connections to USA, Africa and Brazil. Not South America. If you want South America covered, you'd be looking for a joint IB/BA service to MAD using 50 to 70 seat aircraft. Besides, I can't see that they'd be willing to let MAN be a pretty big spoke for Star Alliance carriers with limited oneworld coverage.

There's no reason to suspect that FR and U2 can't co-exist on MAN-MAD as they'd be after slightly differing markets.
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Old 12th Feb 2011, 21:25
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...and there was me thinking Brazil was in South America..........
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Old 12th Feb 2011, 21:35
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Yes, TP is good at getting you to a part of South America.

But I haven't seen Lima displaced into Brazil or Santiago or Buenos Aires etc. Have you tried booking a MAN-Buenos Aires service via the TP website? It's not showing as a connection.
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Old 12th Feb 2011, 22:11
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BA/IB not interested in the UK regions.
Too simplistic. BA need the regions from ABZ/EDI/GLA/NCL and points European to help feed long haul at their main hub. Their would be no profits without the loss making short haul routes, however odd that sounds.
With MAD as the second BA/IB hub, there is no reason to suspect tha given a business case for enough feed that it would not become a focus over time to serve UK points beyond LHR.

BA are not interested in regions point to point. I'm sure I've mentioned this....
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Old 12th Feb 2011, 22:16
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Lisbon and TAP are great to connect you to 8 cities in Brazil. The only other South American city to appear on the Lisbon airport timetable online is a 2x week TAP to Caracas, even then 1 goes via Funchal. Obvious links from previous colonial day when Brazil was part of the Portuguese empire, while virtually the rest of South America (vice Guyana, French Guiana and Surinam) came under the Spanish colonies. Hence Madrid will be better for the rest of the continent.
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