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There is a limit to what will fit in T3 and LX and LH certainly wouldnt I am sure
Only a guess, but I reckon EZY will move to T1, thereby making room for LX & LH to move to T3. The Diamond lounge could then become an exclusive BMI/LX/LH lounge.
Also I would expect KLM to move over to T3 too, to join Air France.
Could even see BA & AA move to T1 to join their one world Finnair / Aer Lingus partners thus making more room for Star Alliance at T3.
Also I would expect KLM to move over to T3 too, to join Air France.
Could even see BA & AA move to T1 to join their one world Finnair / Aer Lingus partners thus making more room for Star Alliance at T3.
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Could even see BA & AA move to T1 to join their one world Finnair / Aer Lingus partners thus making more room for Star Alliance at T3.
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Going Loco
I'd really stick to trains Mr Loco , unless that is you have been on the sherry which may explain your random responses !
I simply thought it was very odd for MAG to go after an airline that it fell out with, a little over 12 months ago, I was merely looking for some observations as to what other readers think..... your responses however are a complete work of fiction !
But why does it need a massive amount of aircraft?
Well you may think otherwise, but I tend to hold the traditional view that the CEO of an airport will by and large try and encourage more aircraft in /out of an airport and by extention increase profit, I tend to agree with that commonly held principle, although I must confess I have never read "Accountancy For Dummies"
............................BUT it might be worth your while picking up a copy !
You always fail to provide a business view of these ideas
..er well that's a new one on me, I wasnt aware I had even mentioned this topic before nor as far as I am aware generated any "related business ideas" on the forum but thanks for the kudos anyway !
obsessed by judging the airport in terms of passenger numbers regardless of the impact on other carriers at MAN, e.g. Jet2 and other airports in the North to whom you seem to have nothing but contempt.
Why do some people who read these postings sometimes have a complete and total inability to comprehend what has been posted.
Do keep up its so frustrating.
At no point did I actually suggest it was good thing or a bad thing, I simply pointed out that it was somewhat unusual that MAG should court an airline that it rejected a little over 12 months ago, especially if nothing more was on offer than a sprinking of routes already served in the main by Manchesters current loyal customers. I actually thought it was somewhat ironic and was curious as to why they would do this and interested to canvass opinion from other posters ?
.... quite where I mentioned my contempt for other airports is beyond me unless providing a factual geographical position report of where these cities/airports are located in relation to Manchester counts as such !
Manchester is indeed at the epicentre of the North Of England with excellent car and train connections to all major cities and towns, if I was the CEO at MAG I would be selling that concept to RYR !
If that makes me contemptuous so be it !
I thought the airport is owned by local govt in Gtr Man so its job is to serve the demand generated by the people who own it - anything above that is a bonus
Again no idea what your point is ?
Can we stick to responding to the arguments laid out originally rather than spin off trying to second guess my own opinion !
I'd really stick to trains Mr Loco , unless that is you have been on the sherry which may explain your random responses !
I simply thought it was very odd for MAG to go after an airline that it fell out with, a little over 12 months ago, I was merely looking for some observations as to what other readers think..... your responses however are a complete work of fiction !
But why does it need a massive amount of aircraft?
Well you may think otherwise, but I tend to hold the traditional view that the CEO of an airport will by and large try and encourage more aircraft in /out of an airport and by extention increase profit, I tend to agree with that commonly held principle, although I must confess I have never read "Accountancy For Dummies"
............................BUT it might be worth your while picking up a copy !
You always fail to provide a business view of these ideas
..er well that's a new one on me, I wasnt aware I had even mentioned this topic before nor as far as I am aware generated any "related business ideas" on the forum but thanks for the kudos anyway !
obsessed by judging the airport in terms of passenger numbers regardless of the impact on other carriers at MAN, e.g. Jet2 and other airports in the North to whom you seem to have nothing but contempt.
Why do some people who read these postings sometimes have a complete and total inability to comprehend what has been posted.
Do keep up its so frustrating.
At no point did I actually suggest it was good thing or a bad thing, I simply pointed out that it was somewhat unusual that MAG should court an airline that it rejected a little over 12 months ago, especially if nothing more was on offer than a sprinking of routes already served in the main by Manchesters current loyal customers. I actually thought it was somewhat ironic and was curious as to why they would do this and interested to canvass opinion from other posters ?
.... quite where I mentioned my contempt for other airports is beyond me unless providing a factual geographical position report of where these cities/airports are located in relation to Manchester counts as such !
Manchester is indeed at the epicentre of the North Of England with excellent car and train connections to all major cities and towns, if I was the CEO at MAG I would be selling that concept to RYR !
If that makes me contemptuous so be it !
I thought the airport is owned by local govt in Gtr Man so its job is to serve the demand generated by the people who own it - anything above that is a bonus
Again no idea what your point is ?
Can we stick to responding to the arguments laid out originally rather than spin off trying to second guess my own opinion !
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Quite agree with you in this instance Alvechurch, I am at a loss as to why MAG would go down this route and upset customers and routes already in place if "indeed" it is true they instigated the contact as reported !
Manchester has lost 6m plus+ pax , it is desparate to get those pax back but why would you jeapordise relationships already in place and prostitute yourself to RYR ?
I just think it is really peculiar, unless there is more to the story and even then would you trust them ?
Not sure !
Manchester has lost 6m plus+ pax , it is desparate to get those pax back but why would you jeapordise relationships already in place and prostitute yourself to RYR ?
I just think it is really peculiar, unless there is more to the story and even then would you trust them ?
Not sure !
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Quite agree with you in this instance Alvechurch, I am at a loss as to why MAG would go down this route and upset customers and routes already in place
Out of interest, who said it was MAG that approached RYR and not the other way around.
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Manchester has lost 6m plus+ pax
From a peak of 22,442,855 in 2006 to 17,664,708 in 2010, I make that a loss of 4,778,147 passengers. Not good but certainly nowhere near 6m plus.
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Bagso - you are someone who has taken up plenty of bandwidth on here talking about things as inane as whether Manchester is a regional city or a provincial city or some such nonsense. It doesn't need much second guessing to work out that your posts are more fanboy than they are airline or airport manager.
Pehaps if you'd read airport management for dummies, you'd know that just like the airlines, passenger yield is just as important as volume. So tell me, is it better for MAN to have 18m passengers at £10 per pax profit or 25m passengers at £5 per pax profit.
Pehaps if you'd read airport management for dummies, you'd know that just like the airlines, passenger yield is just as important as volume. So tell me, is it better for MAN to have 18m passengers at £10 per pax profit or 25m passengers at £5 per pax profit.
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Going Loco
Couldnt do the maths in my head (as i am a bit thick) so reached for the calculator and yes 18m at £10 is much better.
BUT i dont think its as simple as that, what about all the revenue from car parking, shopping and meals that Ryanair will generate, MAG will take a hefty percentage off the concessionaires they also take a slice of the Jet A1 sales.
Cant be bothered trying to calculate the figures but I bet its huge.
Couldnt do the maths in my head (as i am a bit thick) so reached for the calculator and yes 18m at £10 is much better.
BUT i dont think its as simple as that, what about all the revenue from car parking, shopping and meals that Ryanair will generate, MAG will take a hefty percentage off the concessionaires they also take a slice of the Jet A1 sales.
Cant be bothered trying to calculate the figures but I bet its huge.
Easyjet aren't necassarilly "happy" with limited space in T3. They weren't particularly happy at the fact AF moved over. They are however happy with the crew room/office facilities in Olympic House and whilst discussions were had regarding change of terminals (terminal 2 was last rumoured), things have gone quiet.
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There may be some more room soon in T3 if American Airlines continue with their pricing policy.
Looking at random Man Jfk flights in June, it is considerably cheaper to fly via Lhr than to use the direct flight.
Before anybody says that it costs more to use a non stop flight, I bet it doesn`t apply in reverse i.e. I bet it is not cheaper for a Lhr passenger to go via Man than to use a Lhr Jfk non stop.
I have not looked at Man Chicago flights but I bet that the same principle applies.
Looking at random Man Jfk flights in June, it is considerably cheaper to fly via Lhr than to use the direct flight.
Before anybody says that it costs more to use a non stop flight, I bet it doesn`t apply in reverse i.e. I bet it is not cheaper for a Lhr passenger to go via Man than to use a Lhr Jfk non stop.
I have not looked at Man Chicago flights but I bet that the same principle applies.
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Ian's probably right. I was lucky enough to get a low fare going out in May by booking back in September. If AA are filling the flight, then good. Good luck in your search for a decent fare, Bar None.
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Would be interesting to compare CO's prices at the same time.
They operate these routes not only to serve NYC but also other destinations throughout North and South America.
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Went out of MAN last week to Dusseldorf gate 8. RYR was out of Gate 7. Was hilarious to see the antics of ground staff going through all the so called carry on baggage, which btw I do believe in limiting it. No change for customers and going around asking if anyone had two fivers for a ten all the time.
That leg of T1 is far too narrow when flights are leaving from opposite gates, couple that to more passengers trying to get through to gates further down the leg makes it even worse.Limited seating as well.
Manchester is slowly treating SLF as rubbish...it can't go on if it truly wants to survive. Couple that with the walkways being cut back on is moving backwards not forwards.
That leg of T1 is far too narrow when flights are leaving from opposite gates, couple that to more passengers trying to get through to gates further down the leg makes it even worse.Limited seating as well.
Manchester is slowly treating SLF as rubbish...it can't go on if it truly wants to survive. Couple that with the walkways being cut back on is moving backwards not forwards.
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Ryanair's Sunday flights to Faro and Alicante have a lather departure time than all other days.
Arrive from ALC - 19:40 depart at 20:05
Arrive from FAO - 19:35 depart at 20:00
Arrive from ALC - 19:40 depart at 20:05
Arrive from FAO - 19:35 depart at 20:00
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Agree ref SLF treatment.. how EK can be happy with Gate 15 for the 380 (and even the 777) is beyond me.. the queues to board and the neanderthal shouts from OCS staff bringing the empty wheelchairs back 'I will run over you if you don't move' are embarassing