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Old 1st Oct 2010, 09:25
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Can I ask a question then in reagrd to code sharing, if 2 airlines code share on a route do they have to be handled by the same handling agent and do they have to operate from the same terminal?

Surely all that is happening is they add their own flight number, what is the necessity to operate from the same terminal as long as the passenger is clearly informed what terminal the flight operates from does it really matter?
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 12:17
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as long as the passenger is clearly informed what terminal the flight operates from does it really matter?

Because it doesnt matter how much in advance you tell them, there will still be lots of people who will se T3 on their ticket, but then see a sign saying AF are at T2 and it will confuse them.
Passengers in holiday mode are some of the doziest people you will come across.
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 13:24
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My question is irrelevant anyway as the airport website shows Air France and City Jet are moving to Terminal 3.

However I would still suggest for example is you have a Qantas flight number on a BA flight from say London to Hong Kong you will fly from T5 and not T3 as with a normal Qantas flgiht (forgive me if I have the wrong terminal at Heathrow) merely an example of my point.
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My question is irrelevant anyway as the airport website shows Air France and City Jet are moving to Terminal 3.
So one would assume that Air France are to be handled by Flightsupport no ?? - KLM to remain it T2 too !
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 14:35
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Didn't take long for Cityjet to move back then.

The reason why it might matter which terminal an airline flies from - from my point of view - is T3 large enough to support the AF operation?
Will service levels drop? Longer security queues at peak times (for all pax), plus there aren't nearly as many things to do/buy in T3 for those AF frequent fliers who are used to T2.
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 22:23
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And no smoking! Really liked the Antwerp move to T2. Oh well.
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Thumbs up AA/BA code share

Courtesy of Airline Route

British Airways will at last start code-sharing ex-Manchester

AA054/AA055 BA1500/BA1501 Chicago/Manchester/Chicago

AA210/AA211 BA1552/BA553 New York/Manchester/New York

It seems to have been a long time coming, but maybe we will now see BA start to promote Manchester.

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Old 2nd Oct 2010, 19:15
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Thought BA already codeshared ORD as BA 5108/5107?
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Old 2nd Oct 2010, 19:31
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would the new york be better as the BA1503/2 .
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Old 2nd Oct 2010, 23:25
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Some interesting fares direct
Not a lot of help me thinks!

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Old 3rd Oct 2010, 08:43
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Do we realy want to see BA back at Manchester opperating long haul flights just cos their worried that another airline will make money on a route they once opperated... its just like the Ryan Air story not long ago, they pull out cos they dont get their own way, someone else starts to opperate the routes they once did and because its back fired at leeds bradford, he wants to come back to Manchester, well if Ryan Air want Manchester that much, then it shouldnt bother them if they get a new concession or not..
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Old 3rd Oct 2010, 11:30
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Some of us rely on the airport to pay our wages, so to answer your question, yes we do need them back. We need all we can get these days.
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I don`t agree on that Turin as they just come in wipe everbody else of route
and then they leave us at the drop of a hat because they have a spat with management or the government or handling agent, leaving us with nothing having paid the airport
nothing for having the pleasure of them NOT.
Lets stick to AF/LH/BE/LX and U2 who all support MAN and pay towards the
running costs.

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Old 3rd Oct 2010, 12:50
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mytravel A330 -

I am intrigued by your suggestion that Ryanair's LBA operation has "backfired" and that the airline wishes to return to MAN as a consequence. Is this just a bit of wishful thinking on your part or do you have some reliably sourced information to back up the claim? Do you have statistics demonstrating disappointing performance by RYR at LBA?

Please note that I am not "having a go" at you, but if you choose to post a claim like that then you really do need to include some supporting evidence. Perhaps there is such evidence in the public domain and I have just overlooked it. If so, I would appreciate you directing me to the underlying story.

Cheers, SHED.
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Old 3rd Oct 2010, 12:54
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Turin...
As an employee of Menzies and iv also worked for servisair/globeground and also ringway handling, ive got many years of airport experience behind me, so i understand that we need as many aircraft as we can get coming into Manchester, but its the loyal airlines we want, and not an airlines that just want Manchester when it pleases them, i would rather see the likes of Emirates put more flights in then going onto America and Canada......
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Old 3rd Oct 2010, 13:11
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I agree that whilst any new routes/airlines/frequencies are very welcome at MAN, I think RYR comming back would be very bad news for MAN.
They will demand lower fees, and then dissapear again if the taxes go up, fees go up, handling agents spats and so on, they will be gone again.
We need committed airlines, not fly by night, here today gone again tomorrow ones.
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Old 3rd Oct 2010, 14:22
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It`s the airlines that look after the business traveller that we need as they are the
people support the routes, tourists are the cream on top that fill the flights
albeit with a much lower fare but still very important, quite often these tourists are the business traveller during the week and earning points on their cards which then ends up with taking the whole family away on a couple of weekend breaks a year

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Old 3rd Oct 2010, 14:51
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It`s the airlines that look after the business traveller that we need as they are the
people support the routes, tourists are the cream on top that fill the flights



And the business traveller is certainly picking MAN more often these days. I think its interesting that in the past people have said MAN is a low yielding airport, yet its really starting to prove people wrong.
As little as a year ago, many said Emirates would not bring the 3 class A380 into MAN, and would wait until a 2 class varient came out.
-Now EK have brought the 3 class A380 to MAN, and EK themselves have said ALL current A380 routes are exceeding expectations in F/C.
-LH have said they saw a sharp rise in business pax travelling MAN-germany,
-SQ have the F cabin into MAN (yes yes its shared with MUC, but despite what people seem to think, MAN pax are booking it)
-US airways still sends their A333 with the larger Business cabin due to the business contracts, and for US they offer more capacity MAN-PHL than they do LHR-PHL

And people seem to think WE need FR, more like THEY need us!
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And people seem to think WE need FR, more like THEY need us!

Spot on

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Old 3rd Oct 2010, 20:41
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The airlines you mention will pull out of MAN at the drop of a hat if the economic circumstances dictate.
Nothing to do with loyalty, just the hard realities of business.
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