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Old 7th Jun 2011, 05:21
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The easy A319 in Monarch's hangar had multiple lightning strikes.
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And so it begins.... Hopefully more routes to come!!


Monarch 2012 summer schedule introduces Egypt
Monarch Airlines has boosted its scheduled flight offering for next year with new services to Turkey and the introduction of summer flights to Egypt.

The airline's summer 2012 schedule will operate two flights a week from Gatwick to Antalya, up to 11 flights a week from Gatwick to Dalaman, three flights a week from Gatwick to Sharm el Sheikh, up to seven flights a week from Manchester to Dalaman and two flights a week from Manchester to Sharm el Sheikh.

Monarch managing director Kevin George said: "The addition of new scheduled services to Turkey and Egypt supports Monarch’s shift to focusing on scheduled flying and enables more customers to take advantage of our innovative ‘build your own class’ service, which gives them the ability to tailor their flight package to their exact requirements, providing a greater sense of freedom and personalisation.

"As well as benefiting from a fantastic value fare, customers can also select from a range of optional extras such as extra legroom seating and pre-ordered meals, all of which are perfectly suited for longer flight durations such as Turkey and Egypt”.

The flights are bookable until October 2012.

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Old 7th Jun 2011, 20:51
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Yes l knew that, but it is still classed as tech.
Which was my point, any aircraft of any age can and will go tech.
As for the CFU yesterday, A300 was used to operate an earlier A321 flight, due to the tech a/c in AGP.
One of the A300 was indeed being worked on at LGW, one of which was planned to be available to engineering on Monday, so the CFU was operated when the A300 returned from the earlier flight.
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Old 10th Jun 2011, 09:03
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Wireless Interweb!!

Monarch to become first to offer wireless internet at 35,000 feet | Mail Online
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Old 10th Jun 2011, 09:26
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Just my two pennies worth, and trying not to be too negative about it, but I really think this is going to be a waste of investment and time for the Monarch fleet and the money could be put to better use elsewhere!

The routes Monarch serve are predominantly leisure orientated ones, where the passengers will have already bought all aspects of the holiday before they probably booked the flight in some cases so despite what is says on the article it won't be very useful for such things! I still then can't see much more use for the service onboard Monarch flights other than for the novelty of it, which I suspect will be the biggest uptake in the use of it. There are very few if any business pax travelling on these flights which it would best suit on a day to day basis! Many leisure pax are also price contious and this will be seen as just another frill or expense.

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Old 10th Jun 2011, 10:49
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Many leisure pax are also price contious and this will be seen as just another frill or expense.
I think this is partly the purpose of the whole re-branding though. Monarch wants to be the airline of frills, which people can choose to pay for if they wish. I agree with your assessment of travel extras. However, I do feel that wi-fi will be a great revenue earner.

The number of people these days that bring their own portable devices onto the aircraft is great. Many of these devices, including mobile phones, tablets, console players and laptops have the ability to connect to the internet using wireless technology. I don't know the extent to which this technology has advanced but there is great potential here.

Apart from Monarch being able to offer customers the opportunity to view its own services and products on a free-to-browse basis, there could be the ability for people to check their e-mails, browse the internet and effectively build their own in-flight entertainment if they wish to do so.

With many of Monarch's routes now falling in the 3-5 hour category, people want more to do on their flight than just read the in-flight magazine. Apart from the possibilities of in-flight entertainment, let's not forget that we are talking about one of the most captive audiences there is and so the opportunity for advertisers is also great.

Something that was not mentioned in the article was that Monarch is also looking at introducing handheld devices such as I-pads on long haul routes. One would assume this would be on a rental basis. Here, there also lies the potential for additional revenue without Monarch having to update its fleet with costly seat back entertainment systems which is something where it falls behind on compared to other long haul operators.

Of course, for those people who choose not to use the service then they can keep the cost of their travel experience as low as the price of their ticket. Monarch is however very much a leisure airline and when people go on their holidays, they often spend money on things they wouldn't do ordinarily. You only have to see how busy the pub can get in T1 Manchester airport before 9am of a weekend to know what I mean.

In my opinion, this is a smart move by an airline that is wise to take a step forward in its offering of in-flight entertainment.
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Old 10th Jun 2011, 12:01
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Just going onto another subject for a brief moment...
This is more curiosity than anything, I notice the ZB638 (AB6) leaves MAN for PMI at 07:05 on a Satdy & the ZB639 from PMI doesn't return until 20:45...
I'm assuming the aircraft peforms a W pattern somewhere, anybody know where & does it have a crew change anywhere as that seems a hellishly long day for one crew...
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Old 10th Jun 2011, 12:25
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Yes, this flight is a W pattern and does the following rotation:

MAN/PMI/LTN ZB548/871
LTN/PMI/MAN ZB870/639

There is a separate crew for each of the above. The cabin crew on both are from Manchester whilst flight deck crew can vary though are generally MAN based.
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Old 10th Jun 2011, 13:01
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When do you think that Monarch would get the 737's thats if they do order them and how long do you think the 757's will go on for.
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Old 10th Jun 2011, 13:06
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Thanks for the info Partyboy, I thought it was something like that...
I'm assuming the 2nd crew travel by road transport from MAN to LTN to perform the 2nd half & the 1st crew travel back from LTN by the same means then?
Bit've a b***er if there's an hold up on the motorway I guess... thanks again
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Old 10th Jun 2011, 13:43
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Scandic, I wouldn't want to speculate on fleet, but you shouldn't have to wait too long to find out. Internally, employees were recently told a decision would be made by the end of June although in the travel press I noticed it said that an announcement on fleet changes would be made by August. Employees would be lucky to find out details of confirmed changes a day or so before they are announced publicly and often find out the same time, so I'm not sure which will be true.

Yesterday it was announced that Monarch is committed to the 787's but the earliest date they can expect them at the moment is 2014. All that is known with respect to the 737's is that they have been considered. Nothing more. It is worth noting that Monarch is also looking for fleet commonality in the long term so who knows what may happen. All we know so far is that the 757's Monarch has at present are in management's sights to leave the fleet as they aren't so economical when compared to other aircraft they currently have.

I'm assuming the 2nd crew travel by road transport from MAN to LTN to perform the 2nd half & the 1st crew travel back from LTN by the same means then?
Bit've a b***er if there's an hold up on the motorway I guess...
EGCC7955, yes the crews travel by road as you mention, but I must say that I cannot remember when one of these flights has been delayed due to this reason. Crew travel between bases all the time and it is very rare for a flight to be delayed because of hold ups on the road. Crew transport drivers are also very good in keeping up to date with the latest road and traffic incidents so as to avoid delays. Any such problems could be very costly for an airline.
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Old 10th Jun 2011, 15:18
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Yes I would imagine the £'s signs would start stacking up if crews were sat in a 6 miles tailback on the M1
Thanks again Partyboy for all the info, now I understand it all
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Old 10th Jun 2011, 15:26
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Anyone know any A320 swaps which are due to happen. Here is where each aircraft is currently at:

A320:
G-OZBB - LTN
G-OZBK - MAN
G-MRJK - LTN
G-MPCD - LTN
G-MONX - DUB (LGW when not in DUB)

Im just wondering because I am going to GIB in July and I have been on all A320's except G-MONX and whe I go it is usually G-MRJK outbound and G-OZBB inbound. I keep checking on data.flight24.com/airplanes but they tend to not move about and G-MONX always stays in LGW, plus the last couple of times I went G-MRJK was in MAN for two months and then it went to LGW the following day.

Can anyone help? I know you are all brilliant at this stuff.
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Old 10th Jun 2011, 15:35
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Send me a PM with your flight details and l might be able to give you an idea, this by looking at what is due on hangar checks around your travel dates.
Other than that you have no chance, this early on.
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Old 10th Jun 2011, 18:15
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321 replacment

Latest scuttlebutt is that Monarch Airlines are fed up with the high level of un servicabilty on its V2500 engs.That could send it down the route of 737 NG,getting rid of all v2500 powered a/c,keeping the CFM powered 320,s
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Old 10th Jun 2011, 18:30
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I hope they keep the A321's
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Old 11th Jun 2011, 13:29
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Old 11th Jun 2011, 13:54
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I wouldn't necessarily say this flight has "appalling punctuality" - The average delay for this flight is only 19 minutes!!
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Old 11th Jun 2011, 20:21
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That's appalling!
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Old 11th Jun 2011, 20:50
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A lot of the time it is not the airline's fault when it comes to PMI, Ground handing for aircraft is a very slow process and then airlines miss there slots and they have to wait until there is one available.

Over the last few weeks it has taken up to 3 hours to turn around an A320 which should be done within an hour. Not monarch a different airline.

Ryanair have turn around times as long as 65 minutes for there aircraft.
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