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Old 5th Dec 2011, 22:47
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I understand that the 757's are due to get the new livery.
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Old 6th Dec 2011, 04:28
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All a/c are due to get the new livery eventually.
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Old 6th Dec 2011, 10:31
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This aircraft, the A321, in this fuel config, will carry a full cabin and 200+ bags, and on present timings is easily capable of flying SSH-UK and still fly at normal cruise for a further 1.5+ hrs and still land with normal diversion reserves. Inside its a tin can just like the 757. There is absolutely no problem fuel capacity wise! This is with 30kt+ headwind component homeward bound.
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Old 6th Dec 2011, 10:37
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I think Monarch have a problem because what aircraft can replace those old 757s? newer second hand 757s maybe, late build models. The 321 even in favourable conditions will struggle with a full pax payload and a full compliment of pax baggage. SSH from say Man, most are holidaymakers on 1 week/2 week hols so most if not all will take hold luggage, which will cause probs for the 321 when operating these red sea charters.

There is no suitable 757 replacement in current manufacture. 321 is less capacity, people think its almost a 757 seating but it has fewer seats and less range, The 757 has been good for Monarch as they could use them on short haul, medium haul and even longer haul charters, with no payload problems. I feel moving to an all 321 fleet is what mon want but they recognise, clearly that the for some routes the 321 is not the right choice, hence why they seem so reluctant to part with those few remaining 757s
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Old 6th Dec 2011, 14:28
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All a/c are due to get the new livery eventually.
Noooo! Hopefully it's not completed any time soon.
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Old 6th Dec 2011, 15:44
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Where have the Astreus B757s gone? I'm sure that if ZB wanted more 75s they could be sourced from somewhere.
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Old 6th Dec 2011, 16:10
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But the point is, MON do not want any more B757's, because of the operating cost advantage the A321 has over the B757 within the MON/ZB route structure.
By the way, the four A321 a/c that MON have installed an ACT, do not have any uprated engines.
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Old 7th Dec 2011, 04:07
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Saw an A321 in monarch livery parked in CGN yesterday (G-MARA), was that a tech stop? Or some charter flight? Haven't seen them there before, so was kinda surprised.
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Old 7th Dec 2011, 14:26
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Maybe for a repaint into new colours? Heard an A300 is at MAN being resprayed too (MAJS).

If this is the case, then 4 will be in new colours (MAJS, MONS, MARA & OZBT)
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Old 7th Dec 2011, 16:23
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Denti

Are you positive of where you were, because l think G-MARA was parked in Berlin (TXL) yesterday on a charter.
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Old 7th Dec 2011, 16:30
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are they doing much charter work at the moment?
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Old 7th Dec 2011, 17:28
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MKY661 Maybe for a repaint into new colours? Heard an A300 is at MAN being resprayed too (MAJS).

If this is the case, then 4 will be in new colours (MAJS, MONS, MARA & OZBT)
G-OZBM will also be in the new paint, in decal form by the end of the hangar check. The New purple tail is clear to see in the hangar windows.

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Old 7th Dec 2011, 18:00
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Wasnt another one having a hangar check at LTN a few days ago? think it was OJEG, that might have been painted too maybe?

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Old 7th Dec 2011, 20:44
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MAJS is now sporting the new livery
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Old 7th Dec 2011, 20:52
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Yes it has left the hangar in the new livery.
Please note that no a/c has yet been painted into the new livery, all using decals at the moment.
Not sure of when and what a/c are going for repaints this winter, A330s were going, but now l am not sure if this is the case.
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Old 7th Dec 2011, 21:10
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A330 in for new livery, decals next week.
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Old 7th Dec 2011, 21:12
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Should be exitcing. Cant wait to see it
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Old 8th Dec 2011, 07:43
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@Mr @ Spotty M, yup, i'm sure. Was shuttling between txl and cgn that day myself (usual four sector short haul day) and did spot a monarch plane in txl later on myself, however couldn't see the registration as it was somewhat dark and i had to make sure nothing happens to my plane

In CGN it was parked around D20 on apron D opposite to terminal 2, one stair attached, doors closed, no lights. In txl around position 62 at terminal C adjacent to taxiway PE.
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Old 8th Dec 2011, 09:26
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The TXL flight was carrying Spanish shoppers from ZAZ
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Old 8th Dec 2011, 11:38
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Denti,
As Mr@SpottyM states, there was no monarch flight to CGN on the 06th. G-MARA had been in TXL since the 03rd dec and departed TXL on the 06th back to ZAZ.
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